States going after the ink industry?

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This is why everyone should invest in a large format printer - over time you'll recover your cost in ink savings.

I find nothing wrong with asking a manufacturer, at minimum. to label an ink cartridge stating how much ink is in the cartridge. We're not talking about ink formulations or other trade secrets here, simply how much ink, in (fractions of) ounces, a consumer gets when purchasing the cartridge.

It allows the consumer to make informed decisions on which printer to buy and which ink refill to purchase, if and when multiple choices are available.

Thanks for posting.

Why is kodak different?

More needless government oversight which will only increase the cost to consumers, thanks again to those stalwarts of society, the "consumer advocates". I agree with the manufacturers on this one...there are too many variables that can influence the amount of ink needed for a print such as print quality and print size, just to name a few, so telling me how many milliliters of ink are in the cartridge really won't mean a whole lot. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Honestly, aren't there more pressing issues for the consumer advocates to look into, or do they plan on looking at the amount of ink in various ballpoint pens next? After all, maybe I'd like to know this comparison from one pen to another. And why stop there? Maybe we need to know how many grams of toner are in our laser cartridges. Telling me how many pages I can get from a cartridge isn't that informative because I just may wish to do my printing in a 72 font, which blows that estimate. When does the nonsense and government intrusion end?

argyle wrote in post #9363668
More needless government oversight which will only increase the cost to consumers, thanks again to those stalwarts of society, the "consumer advocates". I agree with the manufacturers on this one...there are too many variables that can influence the amount of ink needed for a print such as print quality and print size, just to name a few, so telling me how many milliliters of ink are in the cartridge really won't mean a whole lot. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Honestly, aren't there more pressing issues for the consumer advocates to look into, or do they plan on looking at the amount of ink in various ballpoint pens next? After all, maybe I'd like to know this comparison from one pen to another. And why stop there? Maybe we need to know how many grams of toner are in our laser cartridges. Telling me how many pages I can get from a cartridge isn't that informative because I just may wish to do my printing in a 72 font, which blows that estimate. When does the nonsense and government intrusion end?

Never

CannedHeat wrote in post #9363545
I find nothing wrong with asking a manufacturer, at minimum. to label an ink cartridge stating how much ink is in the cartridge. We're not talking about ink formulations or other trade secrets here, simply how much ink, in (fractions of) ounces, a consumer gets when purchasing the cartridge.

It allows the consumer to make informed decisions on which printer to buy and which ink refill to purchase, if and when multiple choices are available.

Thanks for posting.

Knowing the volume of ink in a cartridge won't help because I'm sure not all printers use ink at the same rate. Ideally, there should be some industry standard 8.5" x 11" test page that can be used to quote the page count of a cartridge. I know they quote cartridges life in pages now but I have no idea if they're all using the same page.

We all know how when the government (any government) pokes its nose into the supply and demand process, things become cheaper and more plentiful.

Yeah, right!

If the Acme printer company consistently charges too much for its expendables, word will spread and people will stop buying Acme printers. The problem is self-correcting.

If they must label the amounts, they should use microliters. It'll make for nicer numbers.

But you watch, they'll wind up labeled in fluid ounces! After all, the fight is being led by the great state of Tennessee, the people who once tried to prohibit the teaching of foreign languages in public schools on the basis that, "if English is good enough for the Bible, it's good enough for the children of Tennessee"!

And every American knows how many fluid ounces there are in a cup, a pint, a quart, or a gallon. We don't ever have to look it up or calculate it, it's instinctive. Just like inches, feet, yards, rods, chains (Gunther's), and miles.

I have a small inkjet for non photo use that I simply return to walmart every time it runs out of ink..

shayneyasinski wrote in post #9365858
I have a small inkjet for non photo use that I simply return to walmart every time it runs out of ink..

It is fraud like that that raises retail prices for the rest of us. Thanks.

The price of ink cartridges are way too high. Anything that would reduce the cost would be good by me.

MT Stringer wrote in post #9366594
The price of ink cartridges are way too high. Anything that would reduce the cost would be good by me.

Putting more nonsensical stipulations on the manufacturers will have just the opposite effect...

bkburns wrote in post #9366557
It is fraud like that that raises retail prices for the rest of us. Thanks.

Let me explain further.

I bought an epson printer for $79 that after 3 months started printing odd lines across my documents so I contacted epson and they told me to run a cleaning cycle and that would fix the problem.
well it did do one thing!!! dumped all remaining ink onto a piece of paper !!!

After buying $100 worth of ink and dumping that onto more sheets of paper to TRY and clean the head I simply took it back and was out $100 on non refundable ink.

BUT I then thought I will buy the same printer so I can use the ink in that printer... NOPE they are not the same.

So I now take it back when it starts printing like crap and get a new one.

Fraud??? how about giving me a full ink cartridge instead of a starter cartridge like they do on almost every entry level printer?

but as far as them printing how much ink is in the cartridge, They should !

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shayneyasinski wrote in post #9366805
Let me explain further.

I bought an epson printer for $79 that after 3 months started printing odd lines across my documents so I contacted epson and they told me to run a cleaning cycle and that would fix the problem.
well it did do one thing!!! dumped all remaining ink onto a piece of paper !!!

After buying $100 worth of ink and dumping that onto more sheets of paper to TRY and clean the head I simply took it back and was out $100 on non refundable ink.

BUT I then thought I will buy the same printer so I can use the ink in that printer... NOPE they are not the same.

So I now take it back when it starts printing like crap and get a new one.

Fraud??? how about giving me a full ink cartridge instead of a starter cartridge like they do on almost every entry level printer?

but as far as them printing how much ink is in the cartridge, They should !

Fine, but that's not even close to what you said in your previous post.

Of course, if you bought a decent printer instead of the cheapest available, you might have fewer printer problems. Better printers also tend to be more ifficient in their ink usage (smaller droplets, less waste).

Few manufacturer's use "starter cartridges." It's simply not cost-effective. The reason the first set of cartridges doesn't last as long is because a considerable amount of ink is required to initialize the print heads.