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If lens are round, why do we take rectangle pictures?

 
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Jan 15, 2010 08:48 |  #1

I've just always wondered this. The lens we use is round. Wouldn't a round picture be able to capture the most then? Why do we use round lens instead of a rectangle one?


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Jan 15, 2010 08:56 |  #2

Because nobody makes round frames? :D

Actually, the lens projects a round image, but most image degradation occurs at the edges of the circle, so we cut it off.


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Jan 15, 2010 08:59 |  #3

PhotosGuy wrote in post #9398202 (external link)
Because nobody makes round frames? :D

Actually, the lens projects a round image, but most image degradation occurs at the edges of the circle, so we cut it off.


Wouldn't a square maximize the space of the most useful portions then?


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Jan 15, 2010 09:00 |  #4

If sensors were round it would increase the price of cameras considerably, because of all the waste when cutting up the silicon wafer. Round print paper would cost more too, for the same reason.


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Jan 15, 2010 09:05 |  #5

mikejet wrote in post #9398221 (external link)
Wouldn't a square maximize the space of the most useful portions then?

Yes, like 2 1/4 inch square negatives from medium format roll film, but the square is generally not considered aesthetically pleasing.


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Jan 15, 2010 09:06 as a reply to  @ tzalman's post |  #6

^^^^ yes, plus ......
Using round film (negative or slides) wouldn't be so easy to manufacture either ;)


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Jan 15, 2010 09:48 as a reply to  @ seaside's post |  #7

I say we should shift to hexagonal images. Better utilization of the lens' image circle, minimal silicon wafer wastage, and a more "natural" resultant image. Just think of the honeycomb murals you could make!




  
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Jan 15, 2010 10:17 as a reply to  @ 20droger's post |  #8

I think Roger you hit the nail on the head! Lets draft a patent ;)


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Jan 15, 2010 10:58 |  #9

I would hate to be a framer if we went to hexagonal images!

All that cutting of frames!:rolleyes:


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Jan 15, 2010 11:01 |  #10

tzalman wrote in post #9398257 (external link)
Yes, like 2 1/4 inch square negatives from medium format roll film, but the square is generally not considered aesthetically pleasing.

http://fiveprime.org/h​ivemind/Tags/6x6,portr​ait (external link) ;)


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Jan 15, 2010 11:09 as a reply to  @ alt4852's post |  #11

I'm sure everyone realizes that 'way before digital, there was film, and film provided the opportunity for every kind of right-angled format often even within a single camera. My Mamiya RZ67 offers backs with 60x4.5, 60x60, and 60x70 formats, for instance. My old Mamiya press cameras in the 60s offered those as well as 60x90. These have been availble for decades and decades.

While the square format certainly has its artistic uses, it's the preference of only a very tiny minority--and came into use originally only because rectangular formats are too problematical for a waist-level viewfinder (as TLRs and rollfilm SLRs usually were "back in the day" when huge hunks of medium format pentaprism glass were prohibitively expensive and heavy).

The marketplace vote has always favored the rectangular formats.


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Jan 15, 2010 13:41 |  #12

good thing lenses aren't square... good luck trying to MF with that ring.




  
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Jan 15, 2010 15:09 |  #13

The original Kodak box camera produced round images by using a round mask that
closely matched the image circle produced by the lens. There were also several early glass plate cameras that used round plates fitted into a screw-in holder that attached to the rear of the tubular camera body. No reason it can't be done now, but why?


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Jan 15, 2010 15:46 as a reply to  @ ELT_Photo's post |  #14

"Do these blow up into funny shapes?"

"Not unless round is funny."




  
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Jan 15, 2010 15:49 |  #15

Why is Bologna round....and bread square?


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