Zeiss ZE 21 alternatives for cheap?

I will get a Zeiss ZE 21 someday but I'm trying to keep debts down and so looking for something close to the optics of this for as little as possible. MF is expected and use Live View x 10 for focus, for tripod mounted environmental portrait sessions.

I love my 35L but it can be too long. Something in the 18-24 range is what I want. Min f stop not a biggie so long as f/2.8 or better.

Any ideas of what to look out for on eBay???

Thanks

Mike

PS. When I say cheap I don't mean really cheap, just sensible!

Canon 17-40 f4 L? I sold mine recently as I am moving to primes for the WA application.
With a full frame body this is pretty wide, no need for ultra wide lenses like Sigma 10-20 which would be comparable on a crop body.
Mike K

Oly 21/2 or 21/3.5.

Thanks Mike but I have the 16-35L and Sigma 12-24. I'm looking for a good, sharp, contrasty prime

There is no alternative for this lens. This lens is a FREAK. I have heard the new TSE lenses (both of them) are also excellent. The 17TSE cuts down a lot on fringing

if you want AF, you might consider the sigma 24 1.8 (or even the 20 1.8..though that's a bit more expensive). It doesn't have the zeiss optics (obviously) but it's a nice alternative.

nikon 12-24

gasrocks wrote in post #9407137
Oly 21/2 or 21/3.5.

Probably the only primes in the ballpark, from what I hear... none on Ebay, though.

Permagrin wrote in post #9407159
if you want AF, you might consider the sigma 24 1.8 (or even the 20 1.8..though that's a bit more expensive). It doesn't have the zeiss optics (obviously) but it's a nice alternative.

Nooooooooooooooo, not the Sigma 20 f/1.8

Not meaning to be rude Just that's one of the worst lenses I've ever used.

I reckon I will have to just face it, beans will be on the menu for a few months and I'll track down a Zeiss!

echo wrote in post #9407240
Nooooooooooooooo, not the Sigma 20 f/1.8

Not meaning to be rude Just that's one of the worst lenses I've ever used.

I reckon I will have to just face it, beans will be on the menu for a few months and I'll track down a Zeiss!

LOL! NP.
I don't have the 20 but I do have the 24. Sometimes I don't want to carry around the 14-24 (it's heavy) and the 24 sig works just fine in most instances. Though, it's definitely not in the same calibre as the zeiss.

I just had to double look, have you really over 60,000 posts?!? How do you have time for anything else?

http://www.keh.com …ucts/1/OM/6/559​63/WG.aspx


http://www.fredmiranda​.com …2911/0?keyword=​21#7856358

There's a new Voigtlander 20mm Skopar f3.5 available in Canon mount which is supposed to be good:

http://www.cosina.co.j​p …/voigt/english/​sl2-e.html

http://www.adorama.com …ml?searchinfo=s​kopar+20mm

This guy on flickr has lots of samples from a Nikon D700 with the lens (nikon mnt version obviously, but same lens)
http://www.flickr.com …s/colorskopar20​mmf35slii/

gasrocks wrote in post #9407598
http://www.keh.com …ucts/1/OM/6/559​63/WG.aspx


http://www.fredmiranda​.com …2911/0?keyword=​21#7856358

Thanks for the help!

Just had a look at your gear list. OMG

Hmm. Voigtländer Color Skopar 20mm ƒ/3.5 SL II in EF mount sounds interesting.....