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Jan 19, 2010 17:54 |  #16

I had got a course in web designing in 2004 or 2003, i was learning on MS Frontpage, Photoshop, Flash, i designed some banners and buttons to use on web page with Photoshop.


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Jan 19, 2010 20:00 |  #17

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REALLY???!!! I'm a graphic designer with over 23 years of professional experience and I've done quite a few logos in Photoshop. But like I mentioned in the earlier post I wouldn't recommend it unless you're really good with Photoshop and know what you're doing. I know of quite of few professional designers who use Photoshop for logos. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't say that Illustrator shouldn't be the first choice but it shouldn't be the only choice. Also working in ad agency I get requests all the time for clients wanting a copy of their logos as jpgs. But of this maybe because I'm a professional and not a proffesional as you stated.

burn ;), I'm not saying that you shouldn't use Photoshop by any means, but when it comes to what is better it is all preference. BUT illustrator was designed for this type of work in mind. secondly, if you were in the game for 25 years, then your before the computer age of graphic design. But all new graphic design students(I go to an tech. art school) focus mostly on Illustrator. The guy I was talking about said he prefer photoshop because he creates it big enough. Ok, so let me ask this, Recently my work wanted a huge banner for a picnic that they were hosting with over 400 guests on a boat. the logo itself was probably 4 feet by 4 feet. if you wanted a sharp image close, your file size would be so huge. there's a reason vector files were created, and this is that exact reason. If you want to go by the general consensus, Illustrator is the best logo design program out there. I personally own the entire CS suite and logo design is about the only thing I use illustrator for. Sure you can create a logo in Photoshop and if your just making it for a website or a size specific logo, then sure, go ahead, but if your branding a company and creating a logo that may be used for checks, letterheads, T-shirts, Banners, signs, etc. then your gonna want to do it in illustrator.




  
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Jan 19, 2010 21:02 |  #18

I use Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, GIMP, some freeware vector editing program and Illustrator for graphic work. But Photoshop is my choice because we have so many licenses for it. When I do large posters or advertising booklets I use the vector based software because that's all the big print shops will accept.

Most of the people we know that do design/graphic work as their main profession use Illustrator. Especially if they are doing large format jobs like signs for stores or other huge items.

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Jan 19, 2010 21:15 |  #19

gorgon2k wrote in post #9429358 (external link)
burn ;), I'm not saying that you shouldn't use Photoshop by any means, but when it comes to what is better it is all preference. BUT illustrator was designed for this type of work in mind. secondly, if you were in the game for 25 years, then your before the computer age of graphic design. But all new graphic design students(I go to an tech. art school) focus mostly on Illustrator. The guy I was talking about said he prefer photoshop because he creates it big enough. Ok, so let me ask this, Recently my work wanted a huge banner for a picnic that they were hosting with over 400 guests on a boat. the logo itself was probably 4 feet by 4 feet. if you wanted a sharp image close, your file size would be so huge. there's a reason vector files were created, and this is that exact reason. If you want to go by the general consensus, Illustrator is the best logo design program out there. I personally own the entire CS suite and logo design is about the only thing I use illustrator for. Sure you can create a logo in Photoshop and if your just making it for a website or a size specific logo, then sure, go ahead, but if your branding a company and creating a logo that may be used for checks, letterheads, T-shirts, Banners, signs, etc. then your gonna want to do it in illustrator.

:D Sorry about that I just couldn't resist. I agree with what you're saying. As for the banner situation, I would have to agree with you on that more so on the fact that all the banner companies I dealt with will only accept eps files so yes you have to do it with vector files. I think the point I was trying to get at is on those rare occasions when you need the logo huge, as in vehicle wraps, street banners, billboards and such, the files are not huge photoshop files that people would believe that they would be because what you're looking at as in the billboard situation is a file that is only 15 dpi. Yes Illustrator files will always be smaller unless you have a photoshop file embedded within the artwork. Yes, Illustrator is best for creating logos. I'm just saying on certain occasions if you want a certain look and you do have enough experience on how to prepare and design the file, you can use Photoshop. Recommended....no, but totally out of the question...no. Yes, when I went to art school they didn't have computers, no graphic programs. But actually I'm glad I learned this way, in art school I learned the fundamentals as in typesetting by hand, with all of the math involved. Learning that way I think I have a better understanding then the kids today! As for computer knowledge I learned all of that on the job, which I think was great because I was learning as I put it to use in real world situations. Overall, yes, I do agree with what you're saying. Again sorry about the burn.


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Jan 19, 2010 22:50 |  #20

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:D Sorry about that I just couldn't resist. I agree with what you're saying. As for the banner situation, I would have to agree with you on that more so on the fact that all the banner companies I dealt with will only accept eps files so yes you have to do it with vector files. I think the point I was trying to get at is on those rare occasions when you need the logo huge, as in vehicle wraps, street banners, billboards and such, the files are not huge photoshop files that people would believe that they would be because what you're looking at as in the billboard situation is a file that is only 15 dpi. Yes Illustrator files will always be smaller unless you have a photoshop file embedded within the artwork. Yes, Illustrator is best for creating logos. I'm just saying on certain occasions if you want a certain look and you do have enough experience on how to prepare and design the file, you can use Photoshop. Recommended....no, but totally out of the question...no. Yes, when I went to art school they didn't have computers, no graphic programs. But actually I'm glad I learned this way, in art school I learned the fundamentals as in typesetting by hand, with all of the math involved. Learning that way I think I have a better understanding then the kids today! As for computer knowledge I learned all of that on the job, which I think was great because I was learning as I put it to use in real world situations. Overall, yes, I do agree with what you're saying. Again sorry about the burn.

hey, it's all good, I know you were just kidding. and I agree %100 with what your saying...




  
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Jan 20, 2010 10:07 |  #21

About designing websites, i think i will end up to buy a web design somewhere and styles and hosts and whatever as i don't have time to learn graphics and web design and do everything alone.

It depends on what you need the site to do? Even free JAlbum.net will build excellent galleries & now has free hosting, too. A few skins incorporate shopping cart features & some of those aren't free.
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Jan 20, 2010 14:14 |  #22

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It depends on what you need the site to do? Even free JAlbum.net will build excellent galleries & now has free hosting, too. A few skins incorporate shopping cart features & some of those aren't free.
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