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Jan 20, 2010 03:16 |  #31

It's a very old camera. The ISO isn't that impressive. I would go with a more modern xxD.


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Jan 20, 2010 06:07 |  #32

Em2 wrote in post #9431479 (external link)
actually it does work with ef-s lenses, you just have to remove the rear baffle and replace it with a ef baffle if you wish but it is not needed.

Th OP has an 18-55 IS. You can't just pop out the baffle like on other EF-S lenses. The mount needs to be modified with a saw.

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Some say you can't modify the 18-55 IS but I have yet to find out why not.


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Jan 20, 2010 06:30 |  #33

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It all depends on the price. I probably wouldn't spend more than $125 on a 10D nowadays, $150-175 with grip.

20D and up is a better camera, but there is no canon DSLR out there that has better colour than the 10D in my opinion.

I agree with that price. And I would not recommend anything lower then a 20d, either.

I just picked up a 20D with grip (and it had the shutter replaced by Canon not long ago) for $250. I do believe this was an incredible deal, otherwise I would not have bought it (was planning to get a newer body this summer). But it compliments my 30D better then my XTi does.

If you want a xxd that is great, they are way nicer to use... however if you plan on using your XSi as main camera and just need a "backup", then perhaps a Rebel XS would be a better choice, same memory cards, battery etc....


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Jan 20, 2010 07:04 |  #34

No one cares if you'd buy one, which price you buy one for, or if you think all the other xxDs are better. The OP is asking if a 10d is worth it, not if the 20d is better.

For the price they are going for, 150ish now, YES they are worth it. I shot a whole wedding with my last 10d, never gave me a problem, and I loved the images that it produced..infact Ive shot almost all my paid gigs with the 10d, and I actually downgraded from a 30d so I could use some money for school. (I since upgraded the 10d and its gone). Its start up time really is slow, it caused me to miss a few shots, the autofocus sucks, the middle point only works..honestly. Other than that for the price, I would suggest it to anyone who is looking for a cheaper fool around camera.


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Jan 20, 2010 07:23 |  #35

I guess people missed this...
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=811353


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Jan 20, 2010 07:25 |  #36

What Nick said.

I used my 10D for macro, weddings, track day - everything - up until about a year ago. Yes - it has a lot of limitations. It's slow to start up. Not only is it not so great at higher ISOs but by today's standards it doesn't even know what high ISOs are. The LCD display is the size of a postage stamp. Etc.

But it's built like a tank and shooting within it's well known limitations has very good image IQ. And while 6MP doesn't seem like that much, it's plenty to print 8"X10" (ish) sized prints that look great. You just have to do what most photographers have done for years - compose the final shot in the viewfinder - not in the darkroom.

After upgrading, I had intended to have mine converted to IR but I liked it well enough that I could never bring myself to do it. Finally, within the last week as I was just about to pull the trigger I came across a good deal on an already converted body. So ... now I have two 10Ds.

I highly recommend them if you can find a good deal. Not being in the used market recently though, I'm not sure what a good deal is.




  
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Jan 20, 2010 09:03 as a reply to  @ RandyS's post |  #37

Has been a while since my 10D stopped working on me (shutter problems), so I forgot how high the iso went. It really shouldn't go that high, though. 400ISO was fine on the 10D, and some of my favorite shots came from the 10D and an old, film camera kit lens--in fact, I've used some of those pictures in magazine ads and had a couple framed. It really is a great camera.

But it is, by today's standards, slow, slow, slow and old. Focus is slow. ISO above 400 is nearly pointless. 800 looks considerably worse than 6400 on my 5dII. Write speed is slow and the buffer is tiny. Start up time is slow. If you feel the need to have a backup camera that you only plan to use in case of emergency, it would be fine, I think. Though it does use a different battery than the Rebel line--I'd find that a factor to consider.

And I'd really think about the backup camera idea. My favorite thing about having two cameras is that you can use them both for best effect with different lenses.


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Jan 20, 2010 10:16 |  #38

My 10D was pretty good at ISO 800 (Exif intact)

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Jan 20, 2010 10:18 |  #39

ISO 1600 and 3200 was usable with some filtering....

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Jan 20, 2010 10:30 |  #40

Creepin on goodlooking women at iso 3200, that's a good camera in my opinon lol


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Jan 20, 2010 11:46 as a reply to  @ Njv's post |  #41

I have a 10d and 30d and the difference is stark when considering there is not a lot of price difference. Looking to get a 7d soon and then I will convert the 10d to infra red.

The image quality just is not good compared with the new stuff.




  
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Jan 20, 2010 11:57 |  #42

Sounds like the 10D may have better colour and build than my XSi and since I shoot mostly candids and and from my boat these aspects could be benificial at times.My concepet of a backup camera is one that I can pack around with me and not worry about or use if my other camera breaks.In the future I will add FF so I don't see too many EF-S lenses being purchased.The 10D may be the way to
go right now and if I do buy it I will post my thoughts on it.Also is the 10D weather sealed at all?

Thanks everyone,


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Jan 20, 2010 16:39 |  #43

halitime wrote in post #9433695 (external link)
Sounds like the 10D may have better colour and build than my XSi and since I shoot mostly candids and and from my boat these aspects could be benificial at times.My concepet of a backup camera is one that I can pack around with me and not worry about or use if my other camera breaks.In the future I will add FF so I don't see too many EF-S lenses being purchased.The 10D may be the way to
go right now and if I do buy it I will post my thoughts on it.Also is the 10D weather sealed at all?

Thanks everyone,

No weather sealing, but I did find it to be a sturdy camera and I took it into several underground--and therefore dusty (very, very dusty) and damp--coal mines. It worked great. I would have enjoyed better iso in the near dark, but still. Enjoy. I wish mine still worked.


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Jan 20, 2010 18:16 as a reply to  @ post 9429767 |  #44

My first DSLR was a used 10D, back when the 20D was new. I've shot with the 10D from people photos, to action and low light. Here's my personal take on it.

For the money they are worth about $150~200, the 20D is closer to $300. If you just need another camera for a "just-in-case" then it's a good choice but there's some frustration you might run into.

1) Buffer - This alone was the major reason why I bought a 40D. The buffer is painfully slow. I took short string of shots for some bmx dirt jumps, they were buffering for almost 5 minutes. I actually walked about 50 yards back to my car and it was still buffering. Normally it's not a problem because I am not an action photographer but it was just painful. Also I missed alot of photos since I'm waiting for my camera to stop showing "busy". I did get around this by carefully timing my bursts and not using high speed but slow speed or even single shot. This greatly helps get by the buffer issue.

2) Start-up - The start up of the camer I think is 1 min, or longer. This really didn't bother me because I just set the sleep time longer to 15 mins but I also had a habit to constantly touch the shutter button to keep the camera awake. If you saw a great shot, and the camer is asleep, chance you might miss it.

3) High ISO noise - This is more subjective, but I personally felt anything above 400 ISO was extremely noisy. The camera has 1600 but it's pretty bad, again I never used Noise Ninja, so this is my experience just from the camera. Long exposures also have similar issues where you see banding.

4) Little LCD - It's small and really just shows your histogram. :)

For the money I think it's a good camera but you should know the limitations before hand. I had to work around these since I didn't have another camera but actually got some good photos. The only part I didn't like was the buffer, many times I ran into problems and once that buffer was full, you might as well grab the water bottle for a break.

What I do like about the 10D is it's a heavy duty camera, feels more solid than my 40D, and I intend to covert it to IR someday soon. :)


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Jan 20, 2010 18:21 |  #45

Em2 wrote in post #9431479 (external link)
actually it does work with ef-s lenses, you just have to remove the rear baffle and replace it with a ef baffle if you wish but it is not needed.

Ok, I guess that should be re-written to say that it won't work with un-modified EF-S lenses. I would guess that the majority of photographers aren't going to be comfortable hacking up their lenses.




  
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