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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Jan 22, 2010 05:07 | #17 artyH wrote in post #9443856 rs Wait, there is more: Sigma 18-50F2.8 4 1/2 stars Tamron 17-50 f2.8 4 stars It looks like the 28-135 is a better lens than the 24-105L, and guess what, the 18-55IS is better too. The Sigma 18-55 is better than the Canon 17-55? Is this a joke? a lot of review sites rate lens higher than Canon, they sometimes even award "kit" lens with an undeserved number of stars. if your particular lens doesn't receive the correct number of stars you can still use it with full assurance it will fit your camera and continue to process light waves (particles?) just as before you encountered these strange ratings.
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gasrocks Cream of the Crop 13,432 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA More info | Jan 22, 2010 07:24 | #18 Popular Photography is not a good source for test info. They are advertiser based. They will rate a lens higher if that company advertises often in their magazine. GEAR LIST
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TomH.Photography Senior Member 488 posts Joined Jun 2009 Location: Leuven, Belgium More info | Jan 22, 2010 07:36 | #19 gasrocks wrote in post #9446423 Popular Photography is not a good source for test info. They are advertiser based. They will rate a lens higher if that company advertises often in their magazine. Lots of magazines work this way. I remember a car magazine that had a big cover article 'Mark X best car of the year'. They failed to mention that every magazine of theirs had Mark X as their main advertiser... This kind of magazines are not very reliable, don't worry about it. 500D | 11-16 2.8 | 17-55 2.8 IS | 35 1.4 L | 135 2.0 L | 200 2.8 L II
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gasrocks Cream of the Crop 13,432 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA More info | Jan 22, 2010 07:58 | #20 MY favorite was an article entitled: The 10 Best Tripods. Now, between you and me the 10 best are probably all from the same brand. But, no, the article had 10 different tripods, each a different brand. Odd how each of those 10 companies had big ads in that issue and not in other months. GEAR LIST
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TomH.Photography Senior Member 488 posts Joined Jun 2009 Location: Leuven, Belgium More info | Jan 22, 2010 08:04 | #21 gasrocks wrote in post #9446585 MY favorite was an article entitled: The 10 Best Tripods. Now, between you and me the 10 best are probably all from the same brand. But, no, the article had 10 different tripods, each a different brand. Odd how each of those 10 companies had big ads in that issue and not in other months. When my dad still had his own company, we'd get calls every week from so called "professional magazines" offering us articles in exchange for advertising money. That's just how lots of these magazines work. 500D | 11-16 2.8 | 17-55 2.8 IS | 35 1.4 L | 135 2.0 L | 200 2.8 L II
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windpig Chopped liver More info | Jan 22, 2010 08:19 | #22 infomercial journalism. No wonder the print media is going away. Would you like to buy a vowel?
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nureality Goldmember 3,611 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2008 More info | Jan 22, 2010 08:29 | #23 JeffreyG wrote in post #9444358 Simplistic ratings of anything are useless. The 24-105l might be getting knocked down because it has a lot of distortion at 24mm. Who knows, the 'star' system is too simple. A lot of people think a Porsche is a great car and would give it 5 stars. I have no interest in one because I have 4 children and we cannot all get into one. I give all cars that seat 5 or less people zero stars. In lenses I care about center sharpness, AF speed and color rendition. I do not care much about corner sharpness and distortion based on what I personally shoot. Different people have different needs. Also, since I have a 5D and a 1D3 I have to give all EF-S lenses zero stars, just like 5 passenger cars. They simply have no functionality for me. Porsche now has 2 vehicles that fit 5 people. Alan "NuReality" Fronshtein
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TomH.Photography Senior Member 488 posts Joined Jun 2009 Location: Leuven, Belgium More info | Jan 22, 2010 08:48 | #24 nureality wrote in post #9446719 Porsche now has 2 vehicles that fit 5 people. The Cayenne and the Panamera. And Porsches DO get 5 stars. I own 'em and I love 'em. I think that qualifies you for the "blame it on my midlife crisis" bumper sticker! 500D | 11-16 2.8 | 17-55 2.8 IS | 35 1.4 L | 135 2.0 L | 200 2.8 L II
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Jan 22, 2010 09:02 | #25 PermanentlyPersonally I would trade that subscription in for Lens Work which focuses on photography not gear.
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nureality Goldmember 3,611 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2008 More info | Jan 22, 2010 09:03 | #26 If any of the "judging" is based on user input, you must be aware of the following. Alan "NuReality" Fronshtein
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ken_vs_ryu Senior Member 539 posts Joined Mar 2007 More info | Jan 22, 2010 09:04 | #27 gasrocks wrote in post #9446423 Popular Photography is not a good source for test info. They are advertiser based. They will rate a lens higher if that company advertises often in their magazine. you mean there are no canon ads in Pop Photo? http://google-black.blogspot.com
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mike-s Member 61 posts Joined Apr 2009 Location: Belfast More info | This is why this forum - and probably others - is a better source of real-world information about equipment than any magazine. Mike: 5D3, 6D, 40D, 50mm f2.5, 85mm f1.8, 50mm f1.8STM, 17-40L, 24-105 f4L IS, 70-200 f2.8 L IS, 2x580EX flashes, EX380 flash
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Jan 22, 2010 09:18 | #29 ken_vs_ryu wrote in post #9446906 you mean there are no canon ads in Pop Photo? there are plenty of Canon ads in Popular Photography as well as the other magazines and camera/lens review websites. Ironically, the camera ratings of one magazine that doesn't accept ads is not well received here!
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Elvizle Member 64 posts Joined Oct 2009 More info | Jan 22, 2010 09:21 | #30 artyH wrote in post #9443856 I just received my copy of a very popular magazine in the mail. The issue is devoted to lenses, and gives star ratings to a number of lenses, and also lists them as Pro or Amateur. I couldn't believe what I saw: Canon EF17-55IS 4 stars Canon EF-S 18-200 3 1/2 stars Canon EF 28-135IS 3 STARs Canon EF-S 18-55IS 3 stars Canon EF-S 18-135IS 3 stars And Canon 24-105F4L IS USM 2 1/2 stars Wait, there is more: Sigma 18-50F2.8 4 1/2 stars Tamron 17-50 f2.8 4 stars It looks like the 28-135 is a better lens than the 24-105L, and guess what, the 18-55IS is better too. The Sigma 18-55 is better than the Canon 17-55? Is this a joke? hold on, arty. imma let you finish... but sigma is best lens manufacturer of all times! of all times!!! http://www.crankyshutter.com
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