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Newton Di100FRs flash bracket questions??

 
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Jan 24, 2010 07:30 |  #1

After doing a lot of searches here I have decided on getting this flash bracket. This bracket falls into the price range I'm looking for, so please don't try to get me to go with anything else. Because most of my shooting is nature and wildlife and flash photography is something I don't do very often. First question is, will the flash kind of flop around in the different orientations if you are not careful ? Say you want to hang the camera from your strap at your side when not using it, will it easily change orientations ? And also is the dedicated cord holder #2-10102 an absolute necessity? Or can I just screw my Canon oc-e3 cord directly to the bracket? Also are there any problems using large lenses like Canon 24-70 or 70-200 2.8? Thanks in advance in case I don't get back to this for awhile.


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Jan 24, 2010 08:30 |  #2

I have the same bracket and have had it for years. To answer your questions:

1. You really don't have to be careful with the bracket, but I've had mine at my side with the strap and haven't had it change positions. You can tighten the bracket at the pivot points if it does become too loose though.

2. You can us the OC-E3 on the bracket without the dedicated cord holder. I use the holder because I don't want to wear out the threads on the flash cord and the cord holder gives the flash a ledge or lip when it mates with the bracket so the flash doesn't pivot from side to side and stays pointing straight.

3. There is no problem using this with either 24-70 or 70-200. For the 70-200 I attach the bracket to the tripod ring of the lens instead of the camera. That way the rest of the lens and the hood doesn't cast a shadow.

Hope this helps.


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Jan 24, 2010 10:45 as a reply to  @ toyguru's post |  #3

You don't have to be careful with the bracket when it's hanging on the strap. It won't change orientation or flop around. It's not loose and you do need to apply some pressure to get it to change orientation.

Technically you can use the bracket without the 2-10102 but It's not advisable. The 2-10102 is used to keep the hot shoe in place so it won't rotate and it's extremely secure. Without the 2-10102 the shoe can rotate and come loose.

Do yourself a favor and get it. You won't regret it.


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Jan 24, 2010 11:30 |  #4

Thanks guys ! I will get the 2-10102. From what I've been reading I think I will really like this bracket. I've been wanting a quality bracket for some time now.


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Jan 24, 2010 11:52 |  #5

I have an older version of the Newton flash flip bracket (purchased in the 90's) which I used with a Bronica 645-format SLR and continue to use with Canon dSLR. I easily fabricated a 'lock' to hold the flash in Landscape orientation so that I could lower the camera to my side to give my right arm a rest during long 8-10 hour wedding coverage jobs, especially with the quite heavy 645+zoom+flash combo (double the weight of dSLR combo!) Here is a photo (taken years ago, when I had a 20D) of that...

First, the bracket in 'normal' position with camera in place...

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Now a photo of the 'lock' in open position, with the flash rotation mechanism partly rotated...
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You won't regret the purchase. I have recommended the Newton to many pros who cover events, and all have loved it and become very staunch supportors of the product to other photographers as well!

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Jan 24, 2010 11:52 as a reply to  @ claybuster's post |  #6

I really like the Newton bracket a lot and it's worked perfectly every time. If I was a serious event photographer I might opt for a Custom or RRS but I didn't see the need for it and couldn't justify the expense. Once I got the Newton and started using it I knew I made the right choice. :D


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Jan 24, 2010 12:01 |  #7

TMR Design wrote in post #9460406 (external link)
I really like the Newton bracket a lot and it's worked perfectly every time. If I was a serious event photographer I might opt for a Custom or RRS but I didn't see the need for it and couldn't justify the expense. Once I got the Newton and started using it I knew I made the right choice. :D

The RRS is quite a bit pricier, and Custom is quite a bit bulkier and heavier!


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Jan 24, 2010 12:02 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #9460462 (external link)
The RRS is quite a bit pricier, and Custom is quite a bit bulkier and heavier!

That's exactly what led me back to Newton :D


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Jan 24, 2010 12:45 |  #9

Im planning to get one too but is it true that the newtown, because of it's compact size, the flash will not be elevated high enough to serve the purpose of using a flash bracket? Can anyone enlighten me with this? I shoot most of the time in night clubs and events. Will this serve a good purpose for me for what I'm doing? btw, I use a canon 5d gripped with 16-35mm




  
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Im planning to get one too but is it true that the newtown, because of it's compact size, the flash will not be elevated high enough to serve the purpose of using a flash bracket? Can anyone enlighten me with this? I shoot most of the time in night clubs and events. Will this serve a good purpose for me for what I'm doing? btw, I use a canon 5d gripped with 16-35mm

When I used to shoot weddings with 645 film, I used a Metz 45CT potatomasher flash, so elevation was never an issue. Newton does offer a 3" height extension for use with hotshoe flash units like the 580. I suggest you call the phone number listed on the Newton Camera Brackets web site and have a chat with Robert Newton, as he is very helpful in advising configuration choices and is sometimes even willing to do some degree of customization. The height issue I find to be more accentuated if standing off a longer distance and shooting with longer lenses, as the angle between flash and lens is reduced and therefore you are more subject to redeye.


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Jan 24, 2010 12:54 |  #11

so for my system, do you suggest going for a much higher/elevated flash brackets like the strobos coz I'm on the brink of hitting the "checkout" button at bhphoto.com




  
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so for my system, do you suggest going for a much higher/elevated flash brackets like the strobos coz I'm on the brink of hitting the "checkout" button at bhphoto.com

I would do as Wilt suggested and give Robert Newton a call. He's a very nice guy and will spend time with you to help you get exactly what's best for you. No hard sell and no BS.

You can ever purchase directly from Robert.

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Jan 24, 2010 13:51 |  #13

Won't be a problem at Nursographer. The height is fine, adjustable, and there's even a little extra height extender you can buy if you want more - I considered it but saw it was not needed.

If you haven't seen it in the threads already, here is my setup which I've been using at weddings for 3+ years now:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=338933

It's used in combination with the 580ex. - Stu


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Im planning to get one too but is it true that the newtown, because of it's compact size, the flash will not be elevated high enough to serve the purpose of using a flash bracket? Can anyone enlighten me with this? I shoot most of the time in night clubs and events. Will this serve a good purpose for me for what I'm doing? btw, I use a canon 5d gripped with 16-35mm


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Jan 24, 2010 14:16 |  #14

Stu's adjustable vertical is due to the fact that it is a camera rotator, not the flash rotator. The added height applies to both Portrait and Landscape.

To get extra height on the flash rotator, the 3" extension is needed, so that the flash is raised for both Landscape and Portrait orientations.


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Jan 24, 2010 15:21 |  #15

You can also add a lumiquest bounce


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