Has the Sigma 12-24 fallen out of favour?

I've noticed on eBay that the 12-24 has got a lot cheaper recently. I paid mid £400's and that was the going rate but now I see them at barely £300. Has the Sigma been getting a bad rap recently?

I'm only interested as I was about to stick it on eBay to raise funds for my Zeiss

subscribing, I cant seem to get rid of mine either?? I have in this week sold 4 lenses superfast but the 12-24mm nobody is even asking about trying to get an old zeiss 18mm f4 - what are you after?

edit: I guess i was really lucky I got mine with shipping on the 21st sept for 369 dollars. I am trying to sell it for 400 euro though.....

edit2: i dont mind saying it here as most of my buyers are in spain anyway.

Having no full-frame intentions, about 3 years ago I decided to trade in my 12-24 for the Canon 10-22 EF-s, I "sold" the Sigma on eBay for $300, but the buyer backed out. Then I offered it to Adorama, who said they would give me 70% of their asking price for the same lens used. As mine was in excellent condition they gave me $350, more than I would have gotten from the eBay seller.

That was nearly three years ago. Now their price for a used Sigma 12-24 has increased from about $500 to about $700, and for a new one $900, up from about $700. So you might get more for it now.

zincozinco wrote in post #9461765
subscribing, I cant seem to get rid of mine either?? I have in this week sold 4 lenses superfast but the 12-24mm nobody is even asking about trying to get an old zeiss 18mm f4 - what are you after?

edit: I guess i was really lucky I got mine with shipping on the 21st sept for 369 dollars. I am trying to sell it for 400 euro though.....

edit2: i dont mind saying it here as most of my buyers are in spain anyway.

I'm after the 21 ZE. I have one on hold for a great price, well not cheap but good for a new Zeiss, so kind of keen to grab it. I can buy one anyway but I'm in to keeping out of debt these days - I'd have the 1DmkIV if I wasn't - but as the Sigma is more an effects lens for me it can go to offset the cost a little.

I'm not actually that unhappy with the Sigma. It does what it does very well.

Wow, I hadn't checked prices on the 12-24's in a while... GOD DAMN! I paid somewhere between $675-$725 (honestly, I don't remember at the moment) like 2.5 years ago. Either way... the new price of $859 is pretty brutal.

Honestly, its that price thats caused the lens to fall out of vogue. Its now the most expensive lens in the UWA class. ($80 more expensive, that the ALREADY overpriced Canon 10-22.)

The 12-24 is a great lens and I'd never sell mine. But depending on what format(s) you are looking to support with lenses there are better choices available... especially if you're on crop and likely to stay on crop. The Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is better than the Sigma in just about every way except from 12-14mm on FF.

I think "in the beginning" a lot of crop users were buying it as an ultrawide. NOw there about 10 better options for crop cameras. Most FF owners like the 16-35 and 17-40. So it's really only for those who crave the ultimate wideness

I know for me, when I bought mine (and to be honest I mostly still do this), I bought it so I could use it on film and digital, and there were no other choices "out of the box" that could be used across platforms. Honestly 12mm on FF is even more wild than any fisheye and I'm a big fan of fisheyes. Plus the Toki 11-16 hadn't come out yet I don't think.

To say that there are 10 better options than the 12-24 would be a stretch. Lets not forget there are few lenses as well corrected, well built, and include HSM/USM + FTM in an UWA... in terms of those features, I can only think of the Canon 10-22, if you take away the USM/HSM w/ FTM feature, you're down to the build of the Tokinas and nothing else to compare it to - and the Toki's are built more solid than the Sigma, the only lenses to be able to say that. But as many will chime in, its hard to pick a "bad" UWA for a crop these days - its arguably the hottest lens segment of the last couple years. No other focal ranges have so many lenses to chose from specifically for crops as the UWA segment. So, with all due respect I say theres 3 better options, and those would be Tokina 11-16 f/2.8, Tokina 12-24 f/4, and Tokina 12-24 f/4 II. I don't consider the Canon a better option - I'm just not a fan of that lens.

when it comes to FF, where the Sigma 12-24 calls home, Its definitely a truly unique lens, a lens with no equal. I know when I'm shooting mine on film I spend most of my time shooting between 12 and 15mm, with MOST of that time @ 12mm. Its just a perspective that can't be replicated by any other lens. The closest one can get to that shot is with a TS-E 17 f/4L.

I'm surprised Sigma ran the price up of the lens tho, seeing as its never been a super big seller. In a hotly contested market segment such as it is in, such sticker shock is going to hurt sales further... I don't understand why they'd do that.

I think the Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8 is taking sales away from the Sigma.. By all reports the Tokina is an outstanding lens..

yogestee wrote in post #9466390
I think the Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8 is taking sales away from the Sigma.. By all reports the Tokina is an outstanding lens..

hardly a FF lens i guess... apples and pears and all that

i think the price is what is hurting the lens... its just too high IMO.... it needs to come down by atleast $150-200 or so to be a competitive lens..... but if I had a FF camera.... It would be my choice of lens for UWA for sure even though the price is so high..... the only other lens I would consider on FF would be the Canon 17-40L.... 16-35L is just too damn expensive.... I would rather get a 24L prime at that point.

zincozinco wrote in post #9467307
hardly a FF lens i guess... apples and pears and all that

But the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is usable on FF, just not for the entire range due to the imaging circle cut-off (a.k.a. vignetting). From 14mm - 16mm it is fully usable with no vignette on FF. 14mm f/2.8 at a fraction of the price ($699 vs. $2100) of the Canon 14mm f/2.8L and you get 15mm f/2.8 and 16mm f/2.8 in the bargain. Thats why even APS-H and FF shooters like the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.

I have just sold mine for 425 euro. I think the big problem, is that on POTN the biggest spenders are american and they obviously wont buy from europe because of conversion rates+ shipping +tax . Maybe you should try local "forums" for sale. I do a lot of my sales at a spanish "Canonistas".

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss got the 18mm 3.5!!!!!! ..... distagon

while looking this was one of the ones i was going to get if i did not find a 18mm im only guessing that this would be fo someone wanting the 21mm, it has a chip in the glass and im not sure how much that does on IQ - again its not mine

http://cgi.ebay.es …RK:MEWAX:IT#ht_​720wt_1176

i'll buy the sigma from you guys... i actually have a MINT 11-16 for trade if anyone is interested.