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Jan 27, 2010 22:43 |  #31

Ha... sorry, reading too many pad related threads, between here, FM, and kotex.com, tampax.com, etc.. LOL




  
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Jan 27, 2010 22:50 |  #32

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Ha... sorry, reading too many pad related threads, between here, FM, and kotex.com, tampax.com, etc.. LOL

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Jan 27, 2010 23:35 |  #33

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As for apps... I'll stick to waiting for the HP Slate and others and just putting my applications there, none of these snippits. You know, EOS Utility, Office 2010, Photoshop, LR3, etc.

Hummm, I have mixed feelings about flash - oh well.

It sounds like you want a truck because you need a truck and are criticizing a car because it's not a truck. Maybe you wanted an El Camino? If I wanted a notebook tablet I would get a Modbook, I don't though. I have an HP tablet and a few Motions at work - wasn't impressed and don't much like them. Just looking at the iPad I can already see that this product is far superior to anything out there so far interface wise. I have several touch screens from Dell, Windows seems to rob something from the experience (maybe its always seeing the mouse cursor and the clunkyness).

As far as Windows touch technology - it works of course and works well, but it lacks the full immersion into the experience. The iPad OS is built from the ground up to be touch, Windows was not.

If you need or want a notebook, get a notebook - this was not meant to be one. Criticizing it just because it isn't a notebook is just silly. You had a point about the HD stuff - I'm disappointed that Apple didn't fight back a little to output at least 720p, but seriously why would they? Very few people really need HD TV on the go and converting HD video via HDMI to component/s-video makes things much more complicated.

Price wise, the 16GB iPad is very well placed. If it's subsidized with a wireless carrier it would probably lower the price by half or more (depending on data contract). If you know you're traveling you could pay $30/month while you're on vacation - enough to download books, music and maybe movies (wifi) and have apps to connect to your home computer (iTunes?). I would pick this over the Nook or Kindel any day of the week (which is what was aimed at).




  
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Jan 27, 2010 23:58 |  #34

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Hummm, I have mixed feelings about flash - oh well.

It sounds like you want a truck because you need a truck and are criticizing a car because it's not a truck. Maybe you wanted an El Camino? If I wanted a notebook tablet I would get a Modbook, I don't though. I have an HP tablet and a few Motions at work - wasn't impressed and don't much like them. Just looking at the iPad I can already see that this product is far superior to anything out there so far interface wise. I have several touch screens from Dell, Windows seems to rob something from the experience (maybe its always seeing the mouse cursor and the clunkyness).

As far as Windows touch technology - it works of course and works well, but it lacks the full immersion into the experience. The iPad OS is built from the ground up to be touch, Windows was not.

If you need or want a notebook, get a notebook - this was not meant to be one. Criticizing it just because it isn't a notebook is just silly. You had a point about the HD stuff - I'm disappointed that Apple didn't fight back a little to output at least 720p, but seriously why would they? Very few people really need HD TV on the go and converting HD video via HDMI to component/s-video makes things much more complicated.

Price wise, the 16GB iPad is very well placed. If it's subsidized with a wireless carrier it would probably lower the price by half or more (depending on data contract). If you know you're traveling you could pay $30/month while you're on vacation - enough to download books, music and maybe movies (wifi) and have apps to connect to your home computer (iTunes?). I would pick this over the Nook or Kindel any day of the week (which is what was aimed at).

How does adding HDMI out do anything? Zune has component and HDMI out (via dock, but that's because it's too small to have it any other way. And as for HD tv on the go, you'd be surprised. I watch movies all the time, and if you aren't going to put 720p, at least a decent 1024x576 or bypass it to 1366x768, rather than 1024x768.

Processor wise, I would have loved to see something like a SU9400 type i3/i5 used, maybe 10W TDW, and a 40WHr battery. Nothing fancy, just more powerful than a netbook, capable of (just barely) playing back 1080p videos and allowing x86 programs to run.

OS wise, yes, Windows wasn't meant to be a touchscreen OS any more than OSX, while ipod/pad/phone OS was, and it works well. But the OS will also be the biggest limiting factor to this thing, the SDK is OK for now, but having to register apps with apple just isn't going to fly for some companies/groups.

But putting the three things above together, they also could have done some sort of bootcamp like thing to get a stripped down OSX AND the current OS. That would have been a killer device. Hell, I "hate" macs and I would wait in line for one of those.


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Jan 28, 2010 00:05 |  #35

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Hummm, I have mixed feelings about flash - oh well.

It sounds like you want a truck because you need a truck and are criticizing a car because it's not a truck. Maybe you wanted an El Camino? If I wanted a notebook tablet I would get a Modbook, I don't though. I have an HP tablet and a few Motions at work - wasn't impressed and don't much like them. Just looking at the iPad I can already see that this product is far superior to anything out there so far interface wise. I have several touch screens from Dell, Windows seems to rob something from the experience (maybe its always seeing the mouse cursor and the clunkyness).

As far as Windows touch technology - it works of course and works well, but it lacks the full immersion into the experience. The iPad OS is built from the ground up to be touch, Windows was not.

If you need or want a notebook, get a notebook - this was not meant to be one. Criticizing it just because it isn't a notebook is just silly. You had a point about the HD stuff - I'm disappointed that Apple didn't fight back a little to output at least 720p, but seriously why would they? Very few people really need HD TV on the go and converting HD video via HDMI to component/s-video makes things much more complicated.

Price wise, the 16GB iPad is very well placed. If it's subsidized with a wireless carrier it would probably lower the price by half or more (depending on data contract). If you know you're traveling you could pay $30/month while you're on vacation - enough to download books, music and maybe movies (wifi) and have apps to connect to your home computer (iTunes?). I would pick this over the Nook or Kindel any day of the week (which is what was aimed at).

Completely agree except my feelings on flash aren't mixed :lol: I would take this over a netbook any day so I can't load photoshop on it oh well I have tried that on a netbook and it sucks as does the web browsing. When I look at all my non tech head powerusers just you average user they do web browsing, email and look a pic and video and I could take away there computers tomorrow and give them one of these and they would be thrilled. And from everyone I have talked to this thing is wicked fast the A4 is not just apple rebranding a standard ARM chip but they really leveraged the people from PA Semi.


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Jan 28, 2010 00:46 |  #36

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How does adding HDMI out do anything? Zune has component and HDMI out (via dock, but that's because it's too small to have it any other way. And as for HD tv on the go, you'd be surprised. I watch movies all the time, and if you aren't going to put 720p, at least a decent 1024x576 or bypass it to 1366x768, rather than 1024x768.

Processor wise, I would have loved to see something like a SU9400 type i3/i5 used, maybe 10W TDW, and a 40WHr battery. Nothing fancy, just more powerful than a netbook, capable of (just barely) playing back 1080p videos and allowing x86 programs to run.

OS wise, yes, Windows wasn't meant to be a touchscreen OS any more than OSX, while ipod/pad/phone OS was, and it works well. But the OS will also be the biggest limiting factor to this thing, the SDK is OK for now, but having to register apps with apple just isn't going to fly for some companies/groups.

But putting the three things above together, they also could have done some sort of bootcamp like thing to get a stripped down OSX AND the current OS. That would have been a killer device. Hell, I "hate" macs and I would wait in line for one of those.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery :lol:

Seriously though, the CPU is more than OK for it's class. It's more than a year and a half old (or longer), yet it stands up well. Tom's Hardware seems to have been impressed by it - and they have no love for the iPad. I have a feeling that the CPU (or OS) has been tailored very tightly to gain every bit of power from the machine as a whole.

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Completely agree except my feelings on flash aren't mixed :lol: I would take this over a netbook any day so I can't load photoshop on it oh well I have tried that on a netbook and it sucks as does the web browsing. When I look at all my non tech head powerusers just you average user they do web browsing, email and look a pic and video and I could take away there computers tomorrow and give them one of these and they would be thrilled. And from everyone I have talked to this thing is wicked fast the A4 is not just apple rebranding a standard ARM chip but they really leveraged the people from PA Semi.

I have a netbook and use it for on location photo dumping - good for vacationing where one doesn't need a full laptop. I'd trade it in in a second for an iPad though. It isn't slow, but it does seem so compared to the iPad's responsiveness (so far). I'm also wondering if they changed the FAB any after getting PA. Maybe some silicon here and there that will leverage the OS more... I'm sure more is going to come out about the A4 now that has gained popularity. It's going to be really odd with Apple joining Intel, IBM, AMD, Motorola and a few others in the CPU industry.




  
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Jan 28, 2010 01:14 |  #37

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Shoot tethered?

Someone should come up with a mounting kit to use with the 5d2 or 7d video. I might actually be able to see what i'm focusing on @ F/1.4

Could've had a higher resolution though (1024x768 )

I don't see why onOne's iphone/itouch app can't be transfered to the ipad: http://www.ononesoftwa​re.com/detail.php?prod​Line_id=38 (external link)

Honestly, I think the iPad is pretty damn amazing, lol.

Just think, I have my desktop for serious editing right. Then I can have an iPad in my camera bag (I have a laptop holder in there) which I can directly download photos to (flash drive, so it's quick), it has an IPS monitor vs a laptop, great for quickly viewing photos on location for self or clients, plus if you can get the onOne app on it that would be pretty nice as well.

Plus, I think it'll probably make kindles next to obsolete. I guess it matters what your needs are, but I don't need a slow expensive laptop. I have a blazing quad-core Desktop for all my editing needs. And an iPad, in my situation, would be more useful.

I just hope this is where the market is heading, i.e. moving away from laptops to "touch-screen tablets" with more storage and less weight/thinner.:mrgreen:


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Jan 28, 2010 01:32 |  #38

If it will be able to support RAW files I'll consider it for sure. Also the onOne camera remote app would be pretty cool if it in fact will work, but the only problem is the camera has to be connected to a computer as well. So that may not actually work now that I think about it.

I just can't get over the name. Honestly wtf... Did they TRULY not think about it? My first reaction this morning was "No! No! Omg they did NOT call it a tampon!"

There was just so much insane hype on the product, and I just don't feel like it's everything it could have been.


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Jan 28, 2010 01:36 |  #39

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My first reaction this morning was "No! No! Omg they did NOT call it a tampon!" .

But they didn't, a tampon (external link) is not a sanitary pad (external link) ;)


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Jan 28, 2010 01:51 |  #40

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But they didn't, a tampon (external link) is not a sanitary pad (external link) ;)

Lol ok fair enough, I obviously don't use these things so It's all the same difference to me.

I'm sure I wasn't alone in feeling concern at the thought of owning an Apple device with a name akin to a "feminine product" (that better?)


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Jan 28, 2010 02:19 |  #41

My understanding is that iSlate and iTablet are already taken by other companies. I don't think they like the name too much either as they kept just calling it a tablet :)


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Jan 28, 2010 02:22 |  #42

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My understanding is that iSlate and iTablet are already taken by other companies. I don't think they like the name too much either as they kept just calling it a tablet :)

They could have just called it Apple Tablet or something else without the letter "i" in it. Maybe aTablet?


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Jan 28, 2010 02:50 |  #43

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They could have just called it Apple Tablet or something else without the letter "i" in it. Maybe aTablet?

Let be real here if your a wintel maker and you name your product iSomething you are hoping to ride apples coat tails or that apple will really want the name and pay you a load of cash it is the hardware equivalent of domain squatting


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Jan 28, 2010 02:58 |  #44

Give the poor thing a break, it only cost $499 faster all, I never would have guessed Apple could make an affordable device =P


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Jan 28, 2010 08:03 |  #45

Damian75 wrote in post #9488039 (external link)
My understanding is that iSlate and iTablet are already taken by other companies. I don't think they like the name too much either as they kept just calling it a tablet :)

I believe Apple purchased the iTablet name so there wouldn't be any confusion. No clue about the iSlate though.




  
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