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Dance studio photos... HELP ME!

 
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Jan 28, 2010 00:36 |  #1

I'm building a website for a friend that owns a salsa dance studio. I'm trying to take some nice photos but I can't seem to get them right. As you can see from the photos, I tried different methods but I'm still not convinced with the outcome.

This first shot was without flash and a high ISO. As you can see, there's some blur on their movements so I guess we can scratch that idea out:

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The following were taken with the flash (430EXII) pointed at different angles.

This first one was pointed at the (VERY LOW) ceiling. Meh...

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These ones I had the flash pointed at around 45 degrees forward and I was almost sitting on the ground to get the flash to bounce a bit farther away. I think I get better results with this method but still not good enough. I think the main problem is that not enough light is reaching the enviorment. It looks like I was using the camera's flash instead of a flash at an angle (we can blame the low ceiling for that).

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Another, same method:

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I also tried the flash remotely with results I'm too embarrased to post LOL

PLEASE HELP! I'll be taking more photos next week and want to be ready to get better results :(


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Jan 28, 2010 01:04 |  #2

Not an expert but just some ideas. :)

The place looks really small, say 600 sf? I would have just one couple dancing and take it further away, maybe with a 50mm or 85mm? Another idea is a wide angle, one couple, lower the lights and off camera flash, but this would take some time to get right with the flash. Keeping the angle a bit lower, say about shoulder level with the couple.


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Jan 28, 2010 01:06 |  #3

I don't know if this is a good idea but set 2nd curtain sync on flash and use a slow shutter speed to get more ambient light. You will get some ghosting though.


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Jan 28, 2010 05:23 |  #4

The wide lens is capturing everything and yet nothing in this instance to my eyes. It's by and large missing the interaction and emotion between the dance partners.

I'd try some on a tripod with a slower shutter as well. See if you can capture some movement.


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Jan 28, 2010 05:31 |  #5

Go back to how you shot the first one (ambient).

Now using the same aperture and ISO, increase the shutter speed one stop so that the camera is set up to underexpose the whole scene by one stop.

Then mount the flash and point it at the ceiling (I recommend placing a CTG gel over the flash head to match the lights).

The flash should pop and light the near subjects to freeze them. The ambient light exposure will keep the background from going dark, but it will still be under enough to keep ambient from ghosting too much.


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Jan 28, 2010 22:06 |  #6

Thanks for the tips :D gonna try them out next week :)



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Jan 29, 2010 09:13 |  #7

These ones I had the flash pointed at around 45 degrees forward and I was almost sitting on the ground to get the flash to bounce a bit farther away. I think I get better results with this method but still not good enough. I think the main problem is that not enough light is reaching the enviorment. It looks like I was using the camera's flash instead of a flash at an angle (we can blame the low ceiling for that).

(we can blame the low ceiling for that) is part of the problem. The other part is that light fall-off is greatest when the flash is close to the subjects.

Generally, you use a shutter speed that will allow the dim room light to bring out the background, like you did in #1. Then you choose an f-stop that will allow the flash to properly light the closer people in the image. An auto flash will give you a pretty fair image on one of the auto settings, but my flash allows manual with settings from 1/64 to full power, & that's what I prefer to use. Whatever you're using, its always a good plan to shoots some tests, even if it's just at home in dim lighting, so you can get the shutter speed vs. f-stop right for distance shooting? ;)
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