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Jan 28, 2010 09:33 |  #1

So I have the basics down for shooting through Understanding Exposure and I also read up on how to properly manage my flash by reading On-Camera Flash Techniques for Digital and Wedding Photography. Now I want to get more into properly composing pictures.

I'm eyeing this book:

http://www.amazon.com …oks&qid=1264692​500&sr=8-2 (external link)

Anyone have experience with it? Any other recommendations?


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Jan 28, 2010 09:54 |  #2

I have it and it's very good. The 1st time you read it, it'll probably overwhelm you, but then you read it again and it's not as bad as you 1st thought.




  
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Jan 28, 2010 10:02 |  #3

I liked that one a lot.


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Jan 28, 2010 11:09 |  #4

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Jan 28, 2010 11:25 |  #5

If it anywhere is as good as another older book by Michael Freeman about composition elements in photos, it would be a great book to purchase. I have this book by him...

http://www.amazon.com …oks&qid=1264699​450&sr=1-1 (external link)


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Jan 28, 2010 11:42 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #6

Great book! But requires multiple reads.

The other way to learn is pick any photo and crop it many ways on the computer. Then examine each crop to see why one works better than the others. Do this with a lot of photos. Then while shooting, you can attempt to get that good comp without cropping.


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Jan 28, 2010 12:08 |  #7

Another practical exercise you can try is to go to the Critique forum here on POTN https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=12 and look at other people's work with a critical eye. Try to figure out what works and what doesn't, and then analyze why.


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Jan 28, 2010 12:15 |  #8

You should also look at how painters use composition, that's where the "rules" came from in the first place. Here are some nice resources:
http://www.nga.gov/onl​inetours/index.shtm (external link)
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Jan 28, 2010 12:20 |  #9

stsva wrote in post #9490536 (external link)
You should also look at how painters use composition, that's where the "rules" came from in the first place. Here are some nice resources:
http://www.nga.gov/onl​inetours/index.shtm (external link)
http://www.ibiblio.org​/wm/paint/ (external link)

Great idea!

My wife is a painter and we FINALLY have something in common to talk about when I started looking at paintings for composition clues.


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Jan 28, 2010 12:53 as a reply to  @ oaktree's post |  #10

the photographer's eye is a text book on composition, very comprehensive. tells me way more than i want to know about composition. great book!


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Jan 28, 2010 13:43 |  #11

banpreso wrote in post #9490818 (external link)
the photographer's eye is a text book on composition, very comprehensive. tells me way more than i want to know about composition. great book!

+1 It does take a few reads though. Way more than I ever wanted to know about composition :p




  
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Jan 28, 2010 15:19 |  #12

There's some good information about controlling perspective in your images right here in the forum's stickies. Please read our "sticky" (now found in the General Photography Talk forum) tutorial titled Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance?.


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Jan 28, 2010 15:30 |  #13

Bryan Petersons's "Learning to see creatively" iS also a good read

http://www.amazon.com …oks&qid=1264714​183&sr=1-3 (external link)


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Jan 28, 2010 23:07 |  #14

It's a great book, and it will require multiple reads.

I've reread it 8 or 9 times now, and I always pick up something new or something else sort of "falls into place".

I highly recommend it.


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Jan 28, 2010 23:50 |  #15

BIG + for the Freeman book, The Photographer's Eye (external link). Very interesting, relevant examples and concise (though a little sparse) text. Well worth it and very valuable information. My shooting style is slow to change, so what this book has done for me is that it has made me a much better editor of my own work. After shooting, I am much more decisive on what shot to work on and what shots to forget, and more importantly, I know why.


Another recommendation is Perception and Imaging: Photography - A Way of Seeing by Richard Zakia. (external link) This it a little bit more scholarly than the Freeman book, delving more into perception, how we see, how the brain interprets and makes sense of what we see, and how to use that to create better photographs. (4 stars on Amazon, but clearly not for everyone, Eleven 5's, Two 2's and Two 1's - personally, I am in the same camp as the Eleven.)


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