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Jan 30, 2010 05:40 |  #1

Hi guys,
Im looking to buy myself a normal, durable tripod, after dealing with a friend`s SILK tripod and realizing that it is not serious enough.
I have used the manfrotto configurator, and based on what available in local stores,
I have decided on the following combination: 486RC2 + 055XPROB.
Now, As far as my equipment goes, right now the heaviest lens I have is the 17-55 f/2.8 + 450d, but in few months, it will be 450d +70-200 f/2.8 + 580exii
the head can hold 6kg, which I believe is enough, but Im afraid that the combination is too heavy compared of what it can hold.
I would like to hear your opinion, advices, and ideas for other combinations also.
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Jan 30, 2010 07:57 |  #2

DO NOT go for the 486RC2 if you're going to get the 70-200 f/2.8 lens. The 486 head has a tendency to creep with a lot of weight on it. The 488RC2 (or the newer 489RC2) would be a much better choice when heavier equipment is being used.

I use a 488RC2 on my tripods and a 486RC2 on my monopod. A little bit of creep on the monopod is no big deal because I just move the monopod a tiny bit to compensate. On a tripod, though, creep is a pain in the you-know-where.


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Jan 30, 2010 10:17 |  #3

My experience has been, the 488RC2 droops.... no matter what lens you have mounted.

Also tigtening either knob, panning or main, moves the framing point.

I found the 488RC2 extremely frustrating and finally replaced it with a Markins.

I don't know if the newer model, with friction control, addresses that problem.

Unless weight is an issue, I found the 055 perfectly usuable.


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Jan 30, 2010 13:18 |  #4

I'll backup Skip's sentiments about the 488 vs. 486 heads.
In addition to his points, the 488 offers a separate pan lock, which is much simpler
to use than a single lock for the whole head. You have to loosen the entire ball
of the 486 to move it anywhere, while the 488 can be panned without loosening the ball.


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Jan 30, 2010 13:43 |  #5

So, the 486 is limited, on that we all agree.
The 55xprob and the 488 is what Im going with right now.
Unfortunately, Im a little short of cash after my latest purchase...
is there something lighter than the 055, maybe from other companies , gitzo maybe (although their website gave me a headache) which is not a highly priced low-weight carbonized tripod?
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Jan 30, 2010 14:01 as a reply to  @ EagleX's post |  #6

I have the 55xprob with the 804RC2. I love absolutely love my tripod but probably will replace the head down the road. For now it serves my purposes and it has a rating to hold up to 8 pounds. I have not experienced any drooping with any lens.


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Jan 30, 2010 19:12 |  #7

I always

I always halve the manufacturers payload recommendations. It may be overkill but, I haven't lost any gear by doing it that way...


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Jan 30, 2010 19:25 |  #8

I use the Manfrotto 468MGRC2, it doesn't creep and it holds up to 22 pounds. Its magnesium and comes with a quick release. http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …Hydrostatic_Bal​lhead.html (external link)

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Jan 30, 2010 20:07 |  #9

My experience with the Manfrotto 488RC2 head is deplorable. This head has the tendency to tilt forward and it does not like fine tuning. Moreover, the panning mechanism in this device it is not very smooth, at least in the one I have. So, if you want to spend your money wisely I would suggest getting an Arca-Swiss ball head. I had the opportunity to use one in London this past summer and I was most impressed by it. For more info on it please check the following link:


http://www.the-digital-picture.com …l-Z1-Ballhead-Review.aspx (external link)


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Jan 31, 2010 12:28 |  #10

The Arca-Swiss looks great, unfortunately, its way off budget for me..
I see many people having issues with the manfrotto ball heads, can you recommend another ball head that is not manufactured by manfrotto?


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Jan 31, 2010 12:41 |  #11

I really don't understand why everyone has issues about the 488's performance,
though I'm the first to say that I'm not a professional photographer.
Having said that, I may as well say that the 488 has worked very well for me,
exhibiting zero drooping or creep even with my heavy old lenses.
Just learn how to effectively use it, and it's a great head for the price.


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Jan 31, 2010 13:02 |  #12

SkedAddled wrote in post #9511074 (external link)
I really don't understand why everyone has issues about the 488's performance,
though I'm the first to say that I'm not a professional photographer.
Having said that, I may as well say that the 488 has worked very well for me,
exhibiting zero drooping or creep even with my heavy old lenses.
Just learn how to effectively use it, and it's a great head for the price.

With the camera and/or lens sitting on top of the 488, the head is OK but as soon as you have to tilt the camera/lens so that the load is no longer dead center on the ballhead, it's very difficult to position the camera exactly where you want without playing around with it to account for the "free play", or as some people call it, droop. I don't use the ballhead much so I just put up with it. But if I had to rely on the head much more than I do now, I would definitely swap it out for something a little more "solid".


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Jan 31, 2010 14:02 |  #13

I understand your point regarding the Arca-Swiss ball head. However, you still have other good alternatives when it comes to this type of equipment. Here are some web site that you should check:


1) http://www.giottos.com​/ (external link)
2) http://reallyrightstuf​f.com …dsMono&iTpStatu​s=0&Tp=&Bc (external link)
3) http://www.kirkphoto.c​om/ (external link)

Good luck !


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Jan 31, 2010 22:31 |  #14

I just upgraded from the 486 (when my largest lens was the 70-200 F4) to the 488.

I can tell you when the 70-200 2.8 IS or the 100-400 are mounted correctly (using the tripod mount on the lens) that there is NO creep. Even when my 30/50D has a grip or my Mk iii


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Feb 01, 2010 04:54 |  #15

I used a 486RC2 for years perfectly happily. Until the night I was shooting a landscape that featured a large and very full moon. Now the moon moves rather faster than most people realise, so any delay and the shot will need recomposing. The "droop" each and every time I tightened everything and let go meant I must have recomposed 20 times without getting a single shot.

I now use a Markins M10. Markins use a method that does not need, and is actually better without locking everything down. The 486 now sits on my monopod where it can do no harm.


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