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Jan 31, 2010 13:57 |  #1

After seeing all of the fantastic pictures from Lock and Dam 14 here, I decided that I needed to go. I just got a 400mm 5.6 and I've been wanting to try it on something other than the sparrows in the backyard. I met a friend at the lock and we basically spent the day in one spot and never got bored. Katodog gave me some great advice for shooting at the lock. Thanks Katodog! This is my first time posting and my first real attempt at bird photography.

I never guessed that I would be able to get pictures as good as these. I can't wait to go back again. I'd love to hear any comments/critiques that you may have. I think that they may all be too dark. They look good with my monitor brightness on medium-high, but I'm not sure that's the best setting. I have a Pantone Huey Pro to calibrate screen color, but it does not calibrate the brightness AFAIK.

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Jan 31, 2010 14:07 |  #2

Nice shots of a beautiful bird.
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Jan 31, 2010 14:10 |  #3

You've done exceptionally well for your first post. These are sensational and I'll tell you why. I love the way you took the cool approach and used manual settings on these. One doesn't usually see this with first timers. One nit pick. You chose f/9 in most of your shots. At that distance you don't require the lens to be shut down that tight for DOF. Had you used the lens more wide open some of the BGs would have been a little more pleasing since they would have been out focus more. But you certainly did a magnificent job here.


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Jan 31, 2010 14:11 |  #4

Very nice, I like them all!

One really thinks about eagles and buildings in the same shot, so that's a first for me.

On picture number 4, the fish is saying, "Hey! I can see my house from here!" :)

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Jan 31, 2010 14:13 |  #5

The second and fourth shots are amazing! Very nice. (I'm jealous...I want to see one of these in person but no luck so far here in southern Ca.)


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Jan 31, 2010 14:13 |  #6

You're welcome, and you've got some pretty dang great shots there, the second and fourth are beautiful!! I think we all have to start wearing name tags out there, it would make it easier to figure out who's who. I wasn't too hard to miss yesterday, I had my big binos set up on the tripod. I have a thread roaming around here somewhere with some stuff from yesterday.


As for monitor calibration, I've got the Huey Pro and it's okay, but always gives a pink tint to my screens. I use it to see what it does, and then manually make my own adjustments according to what it does. That way I get the proper calibration and no pink tint. Your shots aren't too dark at all, some could use a slight exposure boost, but that's the nature of the shot, not your screen. Sometimes you're gonna get shots where the eagle is black with no detail, and everything else is bright. The only way to truly combat the differences in shots is to keep going out there and learn what works and when it works. The eagles fly from clear blue sky to clouds to water in one series, and your metering can be all over the place. Shooting full manual is the best thing to do, I typically shoot on P because I just pick my ISO and let the camera do the rest. If I struggle I go full manual and do everything myself.

Normally things work out pretty good for me, but that's just me. Everyone has their own little tricks and such for shooting out there, and believe me, we all had that "first time shots suck" thing happen when we shot for the first time. It's definitely an experience, no doubt about that. But, trust me on this, there's gonna be a lot of people around here who will help you to make your shots improve, if they need to be improved that is.


That's the joy of posting images here, there's enough skill and knowledge around here to fill a whole volume of encyclopedias, and everyone is helpful.


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Jan 31, 2010 14:34 as a reply to  @ katodog's post |  #7

Thanks guys. I'm anxious to learn as much as I can. I was shooting at f5.6 in the morning, but I found I kept getting shots that were not sharp. I asked the guys around me if it was because of my technique and they recommended that I shoot at f9. I think the problem is my focusing technique using the Canon Rebel. Can't wait to get a 7D. The last two shots are from the morning at 5.6. I have read that most people shoot the 400mm only at 5.6, but I was also thinking that they may not be shooting birds as big as these from this close distance. Thanks again.

Katodog, I kept a lookout for you, but there were a lot of people there!


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Jan 31, 2010 14:51 |  #8

You did a great job! 2 and 4 are awesome!! Can't wait to get up there!


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Jan 31, 2010 15:49 |  #9

very nice shots! really like 4 and 5!


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Jan 31, 2010 18:10 |  #10

Great set of shots, particularly for a new bird shooter. I agree #2 and #4 are the outstanding shots for me.


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