Canon 9500 MKII Printer Driver Question

I'm getting mixed results with this printer and have noticed a number of folks mention turning off printer driver color management. I want to let Lightroom 2 handle the color management so how do I ensure that the printer driver is turned off, disabled, or whatever the case so that I don't have both the driver and Lightroom trying to manage color?

I simply can not figure this out and would really appreciate any help.

Alex, at the bottom of the Print module there are settings for the print job, one of which is color management. If you open the drop-down list there, you should see profiles for your printer with various paper types. If you are using Canon paper, it should show up there. If you are not using Canon paper and you don't have a profile for the paper you are using, then you won't have reliable results.

Then, to turn off color management by the printer, you will open up the printer settings, using the driver which you access once you begin the printing process (or in the Properties of the installed driver). Your initial Print dialog would have a Preferences option which you would choose, and from there one of your options would be for color management. You will select from a list of options to have the application manage your color (or words to that effect -- I don't own your printer).

It's important that you complete both of these steps so that you don't have your prints "double-processed".

You should also know that having your monitor calibrated is part of the process for reliable results. This includes lowering the typical brightness of your monitor as well as getting a reasonable color balance that will translate well to print as well as to sharing across the Web, etc.

tonylong wrote in post #9519486
Alex, at the bottom of the Print module there are settings for the print job, one of which is color management. If you open the drop-down list there, you should see profiles for your printer with various paper types. If you are using Canon paper, it should show up there. If you are not using Canon paper and you don't have a profile for the paper you are using, then you won't have reliable results.

Then, to turn off color management by the printer, you will open up the printer settings, using the driver which you access once you begin the printing process (or in the Properties of the installed driver). Your initial Print dialog would have a Preferences option which you would choose, and from there one of your options would be for color management. You will select from a list of options to have the application manage your color (or words to that effect -- I don't own your printer).

It's important that you complete both of these steps so that you don't have your prints "double-processed".

You should also know that having your monitor calibrated is part of the process for reliable results. This includes lowering the typical brightness of your monitor as well as getting a reasonable color balance that will translate well to print as well as to sharing across the Web, etc.

Thanks Tony! I'll give this a try. I should have also mentioned that I have a MacBook Pro, running OSX 10.5.8. I'm not certain if this matters and apologize if it does; I should have included that info before.

Alex_c70 wrote in post #9520210
Thanks Tony! I'll give this a try. I should have also mentioned that I have a MacBook Pro, running OSX 10.5.8. I'm not certain if this matters and apologize if it does; I should have included that info before.

Yeah, different OSs and different printers/drivers. Someone with a Mac and a Canon could chip in here, but the fundamental steps should be the same.

In your printer perferences,
Go to the Color/Intensity section and select "Manual".
Then click on the "Set" button."
Another box will open - Manual Color Adjustment
Click on the "Matching" tab and select "None" in the Color Correction section.

I'm still having a terrible time figuring this out. In Lightroom, in the Print module under Color Management, I've selected the icc profile for the Ilford paper I'll be using. When I click Print, I see the dialog box in the first image.

It seems like Color Matching would be the appropriate choice; I select this and see what is in the second image. ColorSync and Vendor Matching are the only choices and aren't available. Does this mean that Lightroom is overriding the printer driver and using the Ilford icc profile? Oh please let this be the case.

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LR2 is setting the printer driver for you. This is correct & expected behaviour.

http://luminous-landscape.com …96&view=findpos​t&p=240778

René Damkot wrote in post #9525076
LR2 is setting the printer driver for you. This is correct & expected behaviour.

http://luminous-landscape.com …96&view=findpos​t&p=240778

Thank you, René! The poster mentions that:

"Only two print paths are supported under Leopard, and this requires all parties involved (application, OS, driver) to be working in concert for both print paths to work correctly."

So does this mean that when I choose the Ilford icc profile, that Lightroom, OS, and driver are "working in concert"? When you mention that LR2 is setting the printer driver for me, does this mean that LR2 uses the Canon driver while also using the icc profile to properly map colors?

Disclaimer: I never print from LR2, I use PSCS2.

As far as I know, in OSX 10.5 and later, if you set LR (or PS) to manage colors, this will result in the printer driver being set like the screenshot you posted.

I never got it to work correctly in PSCS4 / OSX 10.4.11, but that is a different issue AFAIK.

René Damkot wrote in post #9525638
Disclaimer: I never print from LR2, I use PSCS2.

As far as I know, in OSX 10.5 and later, if you set LR (or PS) to manage colors, this will result in the printer driver being set like the screenshot you posted.

I never got it to work correctly in PSCS4 / OSX 10.4.11, but that is a different issue AFAIK.

Thanks again. I've now run some test prints and it's interesting that the colors are off using the Ilford icc profile, but nearly perfect when I select Managed by Printer.

Hmmm.
Might try a few of the suggestions here.

Alex_c70 wrote in post #9526923
Thanks again. I've now run some test prints and it's interesting that the colors are off using the Ilford icc profile, but nearly perfect when I select Managed by Printer.

i been strugglin with the same things with my pro 9000 mkII. i did some tests on a print last night, letting photoshop manage colors, printing from proof view, not printing from proof view, everything i could think of. all came out with a noticiable red tone on the skin tones, except for when i let theprinter do color management. it was dead on.

Well, I'm also using Ilford paper and ICC profiles with my Pixma Pro 9500 with CS4 on Windows XP. My monitor is calibrated with Spyder3Elite. I let Photoshop manage colors, and the picture on the screen pretty much exactly matches what I get in print. I've had good success using the EasyPhotoPrint Pro plugin for CS4 that came with the 9500 too.