Fuji redefines "superzoom"

Powered by AA's - talk about old school.

I can see the advantage though.

goby wrote in post #9596408
Right, but that's the equivalent in 35mm terms.

Equivalent in terms of field of view only.

One of my quibbles with the P&S market is that they refuse to clearly state that the focal length they are saying is not the true, measured focal length of the lens. A 50 mm lens has a focal length of 50 mm regardless of whether it is mounted on a cell phone camera or a large format camera. The apparent field of view will be different depending on how large the sensor/film dimensions are. 50 mm on large format represents a wide angle lens, but on a smaller sensored camera like this Fuji, it is decidedly telephoto.

tkbslc wrote in post #9596423
Well, obviously Fuji isn't including FF sensors in a $500 compact, so I thought that was implied.

Regardless, wouldn't you think a Canon SLR lens of 4.2-126mm at f2.8-5.6 would be rather handy and impressive?

I'm not sure that 4.2 mm would be all that useful, assuming one could make such a lens for a full frame sensor, but something in the 10-12 mm range would be quite nice.

On the other hand, such an extended zoom range would certainly present considerable barrel distortion at the wide end, and probably significant softness at the longer focal lengths as is common with even the 10:1 "superzoom" lenses.

Shenanigans wrote in post #9537329
I'd like to see this slightly creepy, but interesting feature:

"removes tourists and other moving objects from your photographs"

it comes attached to a barrett m82.

Tom W wrote in post #9596939
Equivalent in terms of field of view only.

Obviously, that's a given. There's nothing unique about the way a lens of a certain focal length looks. That is, a 25mm lens on a sensor half the size of 135, if built to the same standards, will give the exact same image as a 50mm lens on a 135 sensor. There's no inherent properties to focal lengths, so obviously it's all just about equivalent fields of view.

goby wrote in post #9601881
Obviously, that's a given. There's nothing unique about the way a lens of a certain focal length looks. That is, a 25mm lens on a sensor half the size of 135, if built to the same standards, will give the exact same image as a 50mm lens on a 135 sensor.

Actually, half the size in both dimensions - i.e., 1/4 the size in terms of area but half the length and half the width.

Unless you consider aperture as well. A 50 mm f/2 lens has an aperture diameter of 50/2= 25 mm, while a 25 mm f/2 lens has an aperture diameter of 25/2= 12.5 mm. Depth of field of the two equally-framed images taken from the same location will be significantly different.

A 50 mm lens at f/2 on a 5D has a DOF of 1.45 feet, based on the constraints used by dofmaster.com's web site. A 25 mm lens at f/2 on an Olympus E-620 (4/3 format) at 10 feet is 2.96 feet. Although the frame size isn't exactly 1/2 L & 1/2 W, it's pretty close in both dimensions. (see the sensor size chart here: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/File:SensorSize​s.svg )

That's what I was driving at. There are other aspects besides field of view to consider, and misstating the focal length of a lens doesn't take those aspects into account.

I love the whole "a lens so good you'll be glad you can't change it" thing.

It's fuji so somehow I seriously doubt it. More likely scenario:
1. Guy takes picture at long or wide end of zoom range.
2. Looks at picture on lcd...notices disturbingly large CA and fringing...
3. CA is so bad that it starts to grow, jumps out of the camera, and begins to assault the guy with a spork.
4. Onlookers flee in terror from the gigantic purple, magenta, and cyan monster that threatens to devour them.

Seriously, remember that S100fs or whatever it was, superzoom with the 2/3" chip? The lens on that was horribad. I have absolutely zero faith that fuji can make a point and shoot that's even remotely close to what panasonic or canon can make at this point.

woos wrote in post #9602939
I love the whole "a lens so good you'll be glad you can't change it" thing.

It's fuji so somehow I seriously doubt it. More likely scenario:
1. Guy takes picture at long or wide end of zoom range.
2. Looks at picture on lcd...notices disturbingly large CA and fringing...
3. CA is so bad that it starts to grow, jumps out of the camera, and begins to assault the guy with a spork.
4. Onlookers flee in terror from the gigantic purple, magenta, and cyan monster that threatens to devour them.

Seriously, remember that S100fs or whatever it was, superzoom with the 2/3" chip? The lens on that was horribad. I have absolutely zero faith that fuji can make a point and shoot that's even remotely close to what panasonic or canon can make at this point.

Not sure about that I have a S100FS and it works wonders, though I need a better camera though in the long run.

The 1000fps movie capture looks pretty good.

woos wrote in post #9602939
I love the whole "a lens so good you'll be glad you can't change it" thing.

It's fuji so somehow I seriously doubt it. More likely scenario:

1. Guy takes picture at long or wide end of zoom range.
2. Looks at picture on lcd...notices disturbingly large CA and fringing...
3. CA is so bad that it starts to grow, jumps out of the camera, and begins to assault the guy with a spork.
4. Onlookers flee in terror from the gigantic purple, magenta, and cyan monster that threatens to devour them.

lol @ that! Sounds like a bad "B" movie

Comparing the specs of this to the Sony H5 superzoom I had 3years ago (7.2mp, 12x zoom) this looks quite appealing. While I'd never spend the $$$$ again on a expensive P&S, perhaps in a year when they are worth less then half it would be a nice little travel cam. Will be interesting to see how sharp the lens is and how good the CMOs sensor is compared to the Cybershot I had.. lol

The noise reviews should be VERY interesting to read once this device is released to the population.
I wonder how effective noise reduction software would be, once the actual performance of this camera is truely revield.
Does anyone know if a Fuji Forum exists? If there is, I would hope the Fuji Forum Photograhers would be as wonderful a group of people such as I have met here on this wonderful Canon Forum.