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Feb 04, 2010 12:47 |  #1

I just purchased a used 85L 1.2 MKii and just received it in the mail. The focus ring seems very loose, and what I can't remember is that when you turn the focus ring when the lens is off camera shouldn't the dial still move under the glass or does it only work when attached and powered by the camera.

I had this lens delivered to my office so I don't have my camera with me to check it, but for those of you that have this lens any comments would be appreciated.

Am I just panicking for no reason? Its about twice as loose as the dial on my 70-200 but its also twice as small.

Thanks, Clifton Lewis


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Feb 04, 2010 12:48 |  #2

It's normal. Enjoy!


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Feb 04, 2010 12:49 |  #3

ive never had one but from what i read, its because the focus ring is electromechanical and only works when powered via the camera body


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Feb 04, 2010 13:01 as a reply to  @ TSY87's post |  #4

yes, it's normal. Enjoy!


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Feb 04, 2010 13:05 |  #5

I think it's defective... send it to me and I'll give ya $100 bucks for it.

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Feb 04, 2010 13:06 |  #6

Thanks Todd
I will get right on that :-)


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Feb 04, 2010 13:07 |  #7

Thanks for the response makes me feel alllll better now. Just ready to start playing with it now!


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Feb 04, 2010 14:29 |  #8

The 85L does not use a traditional focusing mechanism that you are used to. In most lenses, when you twist the focus ring, that turns the focus barrel assembly, which moves the internal elements. The focus ring, and focus barrel assembly are mechanically linked together. This is why you feel some resistance when focusing most lenses. The 85L uses a "focus by wire" mechanism. The focus ring is NOT mechanically linked to the focus assembly. The focusing is actually done by an internal electric motor. Turning the focus rings, simply sends electronic signals to the focus motor, which in turn moves the focusing elements. Because the focusing mechanism is done electronically, if the camera is off, then turning the focus ring will do nothing.

Since you don't have your camera with you, you should also be prepared for another "surprise" that many new 85L owners arent aware of. If you mount the lens, turn the camera on, and then turn the focus ring, nothing will happen. You may think it is broken, but actually it isn't. If your camera is setup for the default focus/metering, when you half press your shutter button, the camera will focus. So, to manually focus with the 85L, you have to half press the shutter button, hold it down, and move the focus ring to manually focus.

However, if you use Custom Function 4, to seperate your AF from the shutter button and move it to the AF-On button, then you can turn the focus ring at anytime, and the lens will move the focus assembly. You don't have to half press & hold the shutter button.

Many people don't like the "focus by wire" assembly on the 85L. I'm convinced that it is a necessity. Because the DOF at f/1.2 is incredibly small, the focus mechanism must be able to focus at very fine intervals. You will see that the focus by wire design on the 85L allows some very precise focusing ability, which I feel is necessary to accurately place the DOF when using the 85L


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Feb 04, 2010 15:58 |  #9

Wow great explanation BigBlueDodge. Thanks for the information!!


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Feb 05, 2010 06:28 |  #10

Perfectly normal :) This lens has quite a few design quirks that show the lengths Canon went to to pull off such a lens engineering feat. Other L primes feel like sport cars, but the 85L feels like a dragster. Less comfy, slightly industrial, but most extreme :) You'll love it ;)




  
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