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Feb 18, 2012 04:20 |  #3136

It's funny how everyone looses their sence of humour around camera announcments....lol!
Cast your mind back to the early 10D days, or even the D30 days....who would have imagined a 20+ mp full frame sensor with 61 point AF system? It was the stuff of fantasy and sci-fi....and yet here we are 10 years later!


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Feb 18, 2012 05:48 as a reply to  @ GMCPhotographics's post |  #3137
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Latest rumors are in. (weak CR1 stuff, but still interesting.)

Rumor about a slightly different spec list for the coming 5D3/5Dx.
It mentions the camera using the 1D Mark IV AF system and not the 1D X’s 61pt AF.

The rumor also mentions a new flagship speedlite that uses radio to trigger the flash. This is something Canon shooters have been waiting for since the dawn of dinosaurs.

Source: http://www.canonrumors​.com …w-flagship-speedlite-cr1/ (external link)


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Feb 18, 2012 05:57 |  #3138

Ricku wrote in post #13918666 (external link)
No you didn't. You are just trying to troll or to be funny, but failing misserably because no one finds your sense of humor funny.

Thank you for contributing to this thread, but please try better next time.

Ugh oh troll police! Interwebz is for cereal business!!! Calm down dude its just about rumors, its an open thread to say whatever ridiculousness you want about a future camera. :p


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Feb 18, 2012 06:03 |  #3139

Ricku wrote in post #13918876 (external link)
Latest rumors are in. (weak CR1 stuff, but still interesting.)

So they're possibly using the 1D4's AF system rather than the 1Dx's? Still not putting their top-of-the-line system in non-1D bodies...

Also, the part about 'upgrading the weather sealing to 7D standard' isn't encouraging either. I've seen 7Ds die in bad weather. I've yet to see a D700 or D300 die in similar conditions.


The rumor also mentions a new flagship speedlite that uses radio to trigger the flash. This is something Canon shooters have been waiting for since the dawn of dinosaurs.

Source: http://www.canonrumors​.com …w-flagship-speedlite-cr1/ (external link)

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Feb 18, 2012 06:07 |  #3140

Shadowblade wrote in post #13918900 (external link)
So they're possibly using the 1D4's AF system rather than the 1Dx's? Still not putting their top-of-the-line system in non-1D bodies...

Also, the part about 'upgrading the weather sealing to 7D standard' isn't encouraging either. I've seen 7Ds die in bad weather. I've yet to see a D700 or D300 die in similar conditions.

This, I like.

hmm 45 points isnt bad, only thing Im worried about is the low light focusing aspect of the 1d4 Af... its not that great.


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Feb 18, 2012 06:13 |  #3141

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hmm 45 points isnt bad, only thing Im worried about is the low light focusing aspect of the 1d4 Af... its not that great.

It strikes me as more a 'pacifying the crowd' measure rather than seriously competing against Nikon. After all, the D800 has Nikon's top-of-the-line AF and weather sealing.

It's only a CR1 rumour, though.




  
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Feb 18, 2012 06:34 |  #3142
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Shadowblade wrote in post #13918921 (external link)
It strikes me as more a 'pacifying the crowd' measure rather than seriously competing against Nikon.


Canon Head Office still does not consider Nikon to be its main competion.
They dont want to consider themself as #2 .. and a 5D II, III, X is a lower consideration.
You might say this is Rebel Canon marketing ...


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1 [2] +2 Nikon D7000 16.2MP DX-Format CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $1,196.95
2 [5] +2 Nikon D5100 16.2MP CMOS with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens N/A
3 [12] +2 Nikon D3100 14.2MP with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens N/A
4 [14] +2 Canon EOS Rebel T3 12.2 MP CMOS with 18-55mm IS II Lens and EOS HD Movie Mode (Black) $424.90
5 [16] -4 Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with 3.0-Inch LCD and EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $539.00
6 [19] -4 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $669.00
7 [25] +1 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging (Body Only) $669.00
8 [31] -1 Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $539.00
9 [32] = Canon EOS 60D 18 MP CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $824.00
10 [67] Sony NEX-5N 16.1 MP Compact Interchangeable Lens Touchscreen Camera with 18-55mm Lens (Black) $479.95
11 [71] Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II Zoom Lens & EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6... $539.00
12 [75] Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1 MP CMOS with 3-Inch LCD and EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $399.95
13 [79] -2 Canon EOS 60D 18 MP CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD and 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS UD Standard Zoom Lens $824.00
14 [81] Canon EOS Rebel T3 12.2 MP CMOS with 18-55mm IS II Lens + Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Telephoto Zoom Lens $424.90
15 [85] -2 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens + Canon EF 75-30... $669.00
16 [94] Nikon Starter Case - Gadget Bag for D7000, D5100, D5000, D3100, D3000, D60,... N/A
17 [96] Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens + Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.... $539.00
18 [99] -8 Nikon D7000 16.2MP DX-Format CMOS with 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR ED Nikkor Lens $1,196.95

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Feb 18, 2012 06:42 |  #3143

EL_PIC wrote in post #13918945 (external link)
Canon Head Office still does not consider Nikon to be its main competion.

In terms of cameras, who else would be? Certainly not Sony, Leica or Hasselblad...




  
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Feb 18, 2012 06:45 |  #3144
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EL_PIC wrote in post #13918945 (external link)
Canon Head Office still does not consider Nikon to be its main competion.

Must be the Apple iphone then.


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Feb 18, 2012 06:52 |  #3145

i.e. selling lots and lots of low-end DSLRs, as well as video, while happily letting Nikon dominate the top end for still photography?

EL_PIC wrote in post #13918945 (external link)
Canon Head Office still does not consider Nikon to be its main competion.
They dont want to consider themself as #2 .. and a 5D II, III, X is a lower consideration.
You might say this is Rebel Canon marketing ...


Rank Change Camera Description Price

1 [2] +2 Nikon D7000 16.2MP DX-Format CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $1,196.95
2 [5] +2 Nikon D5100 16.2MP CMOS with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens N/A
3 [12] +2 Nikon D3100 14.2MP with 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens N/A
4 [14] +2 Canon EOS Rebel T3 12.2 MP CMOS with 18-55mm IS II Lens and EOS HD Movie Mode (Black) $424.90
5 [16] -4 Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with 3.0-Inch LCD and EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $539.00
6 [19] -4 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $669.00
7 [25] +1 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging (Body Only) $669.00
8 [31] -1 Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $539.00
9 [32] = Canon EOS 60D 18 MP CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) $824.00
10 [67] Sony NEX-5N 16.1 MP Compact Interchangeable Lens Touchscreen Camera with 18-55mm Lens (Black) $479.95
11 [71] Canon EOS Rebel T2i 18 MP CMOS APS-C with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II Zoom Lens & EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6... $539.00
12 [75] Canon EOS Rebel T1i 15.1 MP CMOS with 3-Inch LCD and EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens $399.95
13 [79] -2 Canon EOS 60D 18 MP CMOS with 3.0-Inch LCD and 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS UD Standard Zoom Lens $824.00
14 [81] Canon EOS Rebel T3 12.2 MP CMOS with 18-55mm IS II Lens + Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Telephoto Zoom Lens $424.90
15 [85] -2 Canon EOS Rebel T3i 18 MP CMOS and DIGIC 4 Imaging with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens + Canon EF 75-30... $669.00
16 [94] Nikon Starter Case - Gadget Bag for D7000, D5100, D5000, D3100, D3000, D60,... N/A
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18 [99] -8 Nikon D7000 16.2MP DX-Format CMOS with 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S DX VR ED Nikkor Lens $1,196.95

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With the D800, Nikon has clearly taken their gloves off and replaced them with knuckle dusters.

The question is if Canon will continue to "fight" with heavily padded gloves? :)


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Shadowblade wrote in post #13918963 (external link)
In terms of cameras, who else would be? Certainly not Sony, Leica or Hasselblad...

Several years ago ...
Canon was focused on Sony as its main comp.
They even publicly stated this.
At the time Canon was #1, Nikon #2, and Sony #3.
At that same time Nikon was focused on Canon as its main comp.
Now Nikon is #1 and Canon is #2 (see sales figures above) ...
This shows that Canon paid the price for not properly knowing the market.
But the real problem with Canon today is they continue to
refuse they missed the market and loss share by wrong analyiss.
As crazy as it sounds today they still say they were not wrong.
Too be wrong once is human but not to acknowedge it after the fact is .... {LMFAO fill in}


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Feb 18, 2012 09:41 |  #3148

Shadowblade wrote in post #13918900 (external link)
So they're possibly using the 1D4's AF system rather than the 1Dx's? Still not putting their top-of-the-line system in non-1D bodies...

Also, the part about 'upgrading the weather sealing to 7D standard' isn't encouraging either. I've seen 7Ds die in bad weather. I've yet to see a D700 or D300 die in similar conditions.

This, I like.

Major fail if they put 1D4's AF system on the camera. MAJOR FAIL. Low light sensitivity on the 1DX, and the new Nikons are -2EV. I believe the 1D4 is -1 EV. Low light servo tracking issues on the 1D4 is well known to some. I know that was the case for me, which is why I don't own one anymore. They do that, I'm switching for good.




  
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Feb 18, 2012 10:28 |  #3149

Several years ago ...
Canon was focused on Sony as its main comp.
They even publicly stated this.
At the time Canon was #1, Nikon #2, and Sony #3.
At that same time Nikon was focused on Canon as its main comp.
Now Nikon is #1 and Canon is #2 (see sales figures above) ...

You have to look at Canon Incorporated, not just the camera division and certainly not just the still camera division. Sony Incorporated was and probably still is greater competition to Canon Incorporated than is Nikon.


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Feb 18, 2012 10:54 |  #3150

nicksan wrote in post #13919480 (external link)
Major fail if they put 1D4's AF system on the camera. MAJOR FAIL. Low light sensitivity on the 1DX, and the new Nikons are -2EV. I believe the 1D4 is -1 EV. Low light servo tracking issues on the 1D4 is well known to some. I know that was the case for me, which is why I don't own one anymore. They do that, I'm switching for good.

Really? I had no idea there were complaints about the 1DIV AF. I mean, I've heard that one of the 1DX's big improvements was low light AF, but since I haven't been paying much attention to the 1DIV I didn't know it was that much of a deficiency. And is it just AI Servo or single AF also?

Is the 1DIV AF a step back from the 5DII AF at the center point in low light focusing? Would be a head-scratcher if so.




  
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