I still think the d7000 is a better camera, but the 60D is not a bad camera, Its just not the upgrade i feel it shoulda been
Upgrade over what exactly?
FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Apr 22, 2011 21:00 | #1201 KenjiS wrote in post #12275227 I still think the d7000 is a better camera, but the 60D is not a bad camera, Its just not the upgrade i feel it shoulda been Upgrade over what exactly? Jay
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rhys216 Goldmember 1,814 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Oxfordshire More info | Apr 22, 2011 21:04 | #1202 Permanent banKenjiS wrote in post #12275247 I've heard this, it depends on subjects and that, I dont have a TON of trigger time on a 50D...The 60D is similar..but i wasnt really getting to use her for my shooting.. I will say i feel my 7D works better 550D is awful without a grip IMO, but with a grip it's a nice comfortable/lightweight camera that I much prefer over my 50D for a long days shooting, however the controls suck compared to a 50D or 7D and there are a few features I miss.
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rhys216 Goldmember 1,814 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Oxfordshire More info | Apr 22, 2011 21:04 | #1203 Permanent banFlyingPhotog wrote in post #12275275 Upgrade over what exactly? XXXD or XXD
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Apr 22, 2011 22:00 | #1204 Permanent banrhys216 wrote in post #12275145 Depends on the following: a) Canon get their act together = No it's not worth it. b) Canon don't get their act together = Yes it is worth it. Unfortunately I don't have a crystal ball, that's why I'm waiting to see what Canon release next to see if the 60D was a hiccup, or a sign of things to come. exactly and i don't expect much, last few cameras has showed that Canon is being lazy. So B option seems more accurate.
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Apr 22, 2011 22:08 | #1205 rhys216 wrote in post #12275306 XXXD or XXD Can't speak to the XXXD because I've never used one but I think people are mistaken if they consider the 60D to be the next logical step from the 50D. Jay
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vipergts831 Has the TF retired? Or just being utterly lazy? 44,159 posts Gallery: 42 photos Likes: 561 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Taking better shots with an iPhone than MDJAK with a 1DX More info | Apr 22, 2011 23:43 | #1206 FlyingPhotog wrote in post #12275591 Can't speak to the XXXD because I've never used one but I think people are mistaken if they consider the 60D to be the next logical step from the 50D. The numbering is sequential but that's the only connection. If you've outgrown a 40D or 50D then surely the 7D is the way to go, no? Why would you "progress" looking backwards? Agreed. The 60D is more in line with the rebels than it is a successor to the 50D. For that like Jay mentioned look to the 7D. -Omar- Flickr
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Apr 23, 2011 00:11 | #1207 Permanent banFlyingPhotog wrote in post #12275591 Can't speak to the XXXD because I've never used one but I think people are mistaken if they consider the 60D to be the next logical step from the 50D. The numbering is sequential but that's the only connection. If you've outgrown a 40D or 50D then surely the 7D is the way to go, no? Why would you "progress" looking backwards? +1
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kevindar Cream of the Crop 5,050 posts Likes: 38 Joined May 2007 Location: california More info | Apr 23, 2011 00:39 | #1208 I am assuming and hoping that a lot of complaining and belly aching and threatening to leave is in hopes that canon reads these forums, and will respond. My Flickr
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cfnz Member 105 posts Joined Apr 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand More info | Apr 23, 2011 00:54 | #1209 I don't think anyone expects Canon to be reading the forums and respond or anything like that. I see it as more about the debate, discussion and speculation.
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rhys216 Goldmember 1,814 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Oxfordshire More info | Permanent banFlyingPhotog wrote in post #12275591 Can't speak to the XXXD because I've never used one but I think people are mistaken if they consider the 60D to be the next logical step from the 50D. The numbering is sequential but that's the only connection. If you've outgrown a 40D or 50D then surely the 7D is the way to go, no? Why would you "progress" looking backwards? If you already have a 550D or better (600D) and don't need weather sealing and super fast focus and 100% viewfinder, then the 7D isn't really an upgrade either though.
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Ricardo222 Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 23, 2011 06:02 | #1211 rhys216 wrote in post #12276850 ... 550D has more consistent focus, more dynamic range, better ISO, and is a tiny bit sharper.As the above affects IQ, I'm not willing to upgrade one thing, to downgrade the other. I'm interested in where the evidence for those statements comes from. Have you done accurate scientific tests or are you repeating gossip and hearsay? Growing old disgracefully!
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rhys216 Goldmember 1,814 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Oxfordshire More info | Apr 23, 2011 06:33 | #1212 Permanent ban550D - ISO 100 - ruler numbers look a little sharper than 7D
7D - ISO 100 - Slightly softer, with larger grain.
550D - ISO 1600 - Noise is clearly reduced, compared to the 7D.
7D - ISO 1600 - Image has more noise, and is again very slightly softer.
"Comparing apples to apples. Identical camera setup, identical targets, identical lighting, identical framing and identical processing. These manually-exposed samples were shot from a Foba Gamma Studio Camera Stand-mounted Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L IS USM Lens set to 100mm and f/6.3. RAW images were captured with auto white balance, no noise reduction and the "Standard" Picture Style. Sharpness was set to "1" (very low)." http://www.the-digital-picture.com …al-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx David Kilpatrick wrote: Despite the far simpler AF array of the 550D, with its single f/2.8 central sensor, I found it more accurate with everyday subjects than the 7D. Does this mean the AF system of the 550D is superior to the 7D? Maybe Canon has adjusted whatever parameters it can to yield more consistent and acceptable results from the inexperienced user. That must include me, as my hit-rate with the 550D was definitely better than with the 7D. The 550D also has better dynamic range, maybe at the expense of some colour discrimination. All this is achieved with the help of gapless micro-lenses and low-density colour filters on the sensor. Read more: http://www.bjp-online.com …550d-tested#ixzz1KLSVdMyL Subscribe to BJP and save money. Click here to save 29% today.
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reprazent Goldmember 1,045 posts Likes: 13 Joined Jan 2009 More info | Apr 23, 2011 07:29 | #1213 I don't get why people become so emotional about a camera. In this case the 5d2: nobody is forcing you to buy it (or why do you own one already?) If you think it's crap and doesn't have the killer AF and speed you need, then look for alternatives. I just find the 'threatening' to switch laughable. Nobody forced you to buy Canon to start with, it's a choice you have made yourself. If it ends up being the wrong choice, deal with it, but don't be a whiner.
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | Apr 23, 2011 08:15 | #1214 DigiNon wrote in post #12274822 I see it being a one time change. If you feel the need to keep changing back and forth from company to company in the future, then maybe the camera is not the issue. And there is the absurdity of the particular kind of absentmindedness we see here. Someone has just said, "...look at the last three years..." TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | Apr 23, 2011 08:18 | #1215 cfnz wrote in post #12276271 I don't think anyone expects Canon to be reading the forums and respond or anything like that. I see it as more about the debate, discussion and speculation. They're not. It's been clear for a long time that Canon Inc is listening to their home market. What we really need to know is what the Japanese language forums are saying. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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