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Feb 10, 2010 21:23 |  #1

As the title says. why? what benefits do you have over normal jpeg images?

I heard RAW images can be PP more in photoshop which i have? like what?


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Feb 10, 2010 21:46 |  #2

Because its a lot easier to fix any in-camera mistakes if you shoot RAW, plus the dynamic range is a lot better.




  
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Feb 10, 2010 21:52 |  #3

Check out this fantastic RAW conversions thread for some pretty remarkable before/after examples as well as a wealth of info on the benefits of shooting in RAW:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=684360

It's a pretty large thread but if you stick with it and read it all the way through, you'll absolutely be rewarded.


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Feb 10, 2010 21:52 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #4

Shoot in RAW and play with the image in Adobe Camera RAW and then ask that question.

There is so much more control over the final image compaired to shooting in Jpeg and the image will last longer when shot in RAW due to the way a RAW file opens a new image each time you adjust it compaired to a jpeg


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Feb 10, 2010 21:57 |  #5

the only real downfall is how big the files aer but cf cards are cheap enough so that shouldnt matter to much


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Feb 10, 2010 22:03 |  #6

The #1 reason is that you can change the white balance of the image afterwards...no need to fiddle around with gray cards or try to guess when fixing the WB afterwards. I still shoot JPEG for sports and it's like a game of voodoo tryint to see if the new WB "looks right".


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Feb 10, 2010 22:12 |  #7

I would not consider shooting in jpg only unless I needed the high frame rate. And then I would be sure that I got the WB correct along with exposure.


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Feb 10, 2010 22:18 as a reply to  @ dovaka's post |  #8

It took me a while to get up the courage to switch...

Do a Google search using "RAW versus JPEG" as your search parameters and you will come up with lots of technical information regarding the superiority of RAW capture. This post is just to tell you why I stopped shooting in JPEG and began to shoot exclusively in RAW.

I am not a computer guru or geek. It took me a while to get up the courage to get away from my comfortable JPEG captures and shoot in RAW. Then for a while, I shot in RAW + JPEG because I didn't have the courage to completely divorce from JPEG. However, I noticed that when I had a RAW image to work with, I almost never opened the JPEG. I have finally over the last year or two shot in RAW exclusively.

IMO, it is easier to work with RAW because I have a lot of control using Adobe Bridge in opening and processing a RAW image. I can't see any downside for my shooting needs regarding the use of RAW and there are plenty of upsides. If I were shooting sports for a newspaper, I MIGHT think about shooting in RAW for the burst capability but, for my needs, RAW is the format.

I have recently received a copy of Capture One from a seminar which I attended. My next step is to try working with this program which seems to have a lot of positive attributes.

It is totally simple to convert a RAW image into a JPEG or TIFF so I don't need to shoot JPEG, even when my product is going to be primarily in the JPEG format.


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Feb 10, 2010 22:20 |  #9

I will never shoot in jpeg ever again!




  
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Feb 10, 2010 22:59 |  #10

For a good idea of why to shoot RAW over jepg, think about bringing a cake to someone's birthday party:

If you were to go out the store and buy a cake, you would have very limited ways to change that cake. You can add icing, sprinkles, candles, etc. You could possibly even take two cakes and layer them together to make something new, but you can't really change the way the cake tastes.

Now, if you were to go to the store and buy all the ingredients to bake a cake, you would have complete control over how the cake comes out; you could change how many chocolate chips are in the cake, how dry or moist it is, and even how the icing, sprinkles, candles and the rest looks.

This is jpeg (buying a cake) vs. RAW (baking the cake). Very simply put, a RAW file gives you all the ability to change things - white balance, sharpening, saturation - after the shot has been taken. Jpeg lets you change the color a bit (and the rest of your editing tricks), but it is just icing on the cake at best; and if you're not careful, you can easily go too far and ruin the shot.


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Feb 10, 2010 23:45 |  #11

Imagine heavily processing an image in Photoshop, saving it as a JPG, and deleting the original file. You'd have no way of going back and undoing anything because you'd have lost your original image, photoshop layers, etc. That's how I see the JPG that comes out of the camera. Its already been irreversibly modified from what came off the sensor.




  
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Feb 10, 2010 23:50 |  #12

Latitude.


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Feb 11, 2010 03:48 |  #13

http://www.ronbigelow.​com/articles/raw/raw.h​tm (external link)

https://photography-on-the.net …highlight=raw+f​or+dummies


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Feb 11, 2010 06:55 |  #14

I shoot it for a number of reasons:
1) WB - you can adjust it easily in PS without affecting the image quality.
2) Latitude - A RAW image from DSLR camera will be at least 12 bits (4096 bits of colour info) compared with Jpeg (256). This means if you screw up exposure or want to bring up detail, the Jpeg can very quickly get banding as the depth of information isnt there. The RAW has so much more info that its very very very difficult to get banding.
3) Fudgeability - you can screw up exposure by 2 stops and still end up with a great picture in RAW after bringing it back up or down in your RAW convertor. Try that with Jpeg (dont beacuse it just doesnt work!)
4) Control - Rather than letting a bit of dumb software make the processing decisions for me, I prefer to make the choices.


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Feb 11, 2010 11:16 as a reply to  @ neilwood32's post |  #15

I didn't read every post on this so forgive me if I'm repeating anything. RAW = Gives you a file with all the information you need to process it. A plus I found when I started shooting digital is if you have your camera set wrong, as in white balance and so forth, you can easily fix this in pp with a RAW file. JPEG = With a jpeg the camera does some of the processing for you while it's writing the file to your memory card. Which is part of the reasoning of the difference in file size between RAW and JPEG. You can adjust it somewhat in pp but you will not have the freedom to pp as much as you could with a RAW file. Because the camera processed it somewhat with a jpeg file, it leaves that information out after it processes.


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