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Advice needed concerning fast normal/short tele

 
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Feb 11, 2010 13:47 |  #1

I'm currently looking for a fast lens in the 50-85 range to fit on my 5D classic. (Been looking too much at the 'Admirable Blur Thread' at fredmiranda :lol:)

Currently I'm using a Sigma 50/2.8 Macro as my walkaround lens, and i really like the ability to take closeups without too much of a hassle. On the other hand, I'd like to have a faster lens as a walkaround to get nicer bokeh (low-light performance would be a plus, of course)

Manual focusing isn't a problem, I use the Siggy with manual focus most of the time.

Currently I'm looking at the Samyang 85/1.4 (EF+focus confirm chip) and Jupiter-9 85/2 (m42+chipped adapter)

These may be a bit long, but I used my Sigma 50 on my 1000D as a walkaround too, and I didn't really find it too long.

Samyang
+ One stop faster
+ New
- More expensive than Jupiter-9 (I know It's cheap compared to big brand name alternatives, but I'm on a tight budget after buying the 5D)
- Long MFD, I would have to change lenses to take closeups of eg. flowers

Jupiter-9
+ Cheaper
+ M42, could use adapter to other lenses in the future
+ Shorter MFD (?)
- One stop slower
- Old lens, not nice if I would get a damaged copy

What is your opinion on these alternatives?

I'm not really sure if I should go for 50-55 or 85, so feel free to advice on this issue too.


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Feb 11, 2010 13:52 |  #2

Welcome to the forum. CZJ BIotar 58/2 or the cheaper Russian imitator Helios 44-2. (Make sure you get the 8 bladed M42 mount model.) The Samyang 85/1.4 is a great lens and worth the money. Jupiter 9 (there are 2 versions, I have both) is a love it or hate it lens. Look at my gear list and see how many you recognize from the FM bokeh thread.


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Feb 11, 2010 14:34 as a reply to  @ gasrocks's post |  #3

Do you think the extra stop of the Samyang is worth it considering I'll use it mostly as a walkaround lens and for "arty" shots?

Also, what is it that people hate about the Jupiter-9?

Thanks for the CZJ/Helios suggestion. The helios actually looks so cheap that I could go for it plus a little longer lens.

I see that you've got quite an impressive exotic lens collection, some of the brands I don't even recognize.


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Feb 11, 2010 14:42 as a reply to  @ gasrocks's post |  #4

Do you think the extra stop of the Samyang is worth it considering I'll use it mostly as a walkaround lens and for "arty" shots?

Also, what is it that people hate about the Jupiter-9?

Thanks for the CZJ/Helios suggestion. The helios actually looks so cheap that I could go for it plus a little longer lens.

I see that you've got quite an impressive exotic lens collection, some of the brands I don't even recognize.


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Feb 11, 2010 14:50 |  #5

I'd get the Samyang. I've yet to hear of someone who actually owns this lens not liking it.

The Helios-44/2 is up on ebay all the time for very, very cheap.


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Feb 11, 2010 15:11 |  #6

Yeah, I feel the Samyang would be the most "reliable" option although it is very tempting to invest in some cheap Russian glass.


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Feb 11, 2010 15:13 |  #7

Why not an 85mm f1.8?


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Feb 11, 2010 15:54 |  #8

It's rwice the price of the Samyang, half a stop slower (not that big of a deal, but still), and the samyang has nicer bokeh.

The only thing it wins the samyang at is autofocus ;)


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