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Feb 14, 2010 08:32 |  #31

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What I'm saying is that Nikon had the largest slice of the pie in terms of camera/gear sales to professional photographers for atleast three decades..

Whilst I was working as a pro-photographer I would sometimes go to international sporting events in Australia.. Nikon always had a gear available to accredited shooters.. I never saw this deal from Canon..

Maybe today things are different..

In the US Canon Cameras were distributed by Bell & Howell until the early 70's. THey concentrated on the consumer market.

The pro series, Nikon F competitor, Canon F-1 wasn't introduced until 1971. Nikon had the 35mm pro market almost all to themselves. The F-1 was just as robust and adaptable as the Nikon pro cameras, but by then, it was hard for Canon to get pros to make the change.

Nikon earned their pro reputation by building cameras and lenses built like tanks. It was not unusual to see a black body Nikon F with most of the black paint worn off, dents all over it and caked with mud, still taking great pictures. Even though Nikon had the rep fro toughness, even back then Canon had the reputation fro superior glass, especially long lenses. Marty Forscher of Professional Camera Repair in New York did a big business in adapting Canon gray barrels to Nikon bodies.

Nikon is a much smaller company than Canon. Canon has much more experience with electro mechanical devices, so when the camera market made the move to electronics and new construction, Nikon was left behind. Canon saw a great increase in their share of the market from the late 70's through the late 90's. They simply had the expertise to capitalize on the new cameras.

Nikon has become much better at the electronics end of camera design and they have closed the gap in the last few years. I think from now on we will see these two comanies swapping the lead back and forth.




  
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Feb 14, 2010 12:18 |  #32

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Charles,, what I'm saying is that from the 1970s through to the 1990s Nikon had the larger slice of professional sales world wide than any 35mm camera on the market..

Today I wouldn't know what the figures are,,probably equal to Canon.. But one thing I definitely know is that living in Asia I see far more Nikons than Canons DSLRs.. The only Canons I see are usually owned by Caucasian tourists..

What I've noticed also is that more Nikons are owned my Asians,,rarely do I see an Asian Canon shooter..

You realize that is just about the most ridiculous comment.


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Feb 14, 2010 15:04 |  #33

mikeassk wrote in post #9607714 (external link)
You realize that is just about the most ridiculous comment.

I'm sure some of his best friends are Asian.




  
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Feb 14, 2010 16:31 |  #34

My understanding is that CPS has the same presence in Vancouver as NPS.




  
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Feb 14, 2010 17:33 |  #35

I live in the Philippines and in here...i see a lot of consumers and hobbyist Canon users BUT most pros are using Nikon gears.

to be honest, i think Canon has a bigger share of the market here... mainly due to their better service center


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Feb 14, 2010 19:18 |  #36

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I was told a couple months ago by a small town camera store owner that Nikon and Canon each had about 45% in retail sales in the USA in the camera market. From what you are saying (if it is still true today, and I realize you are not sure) that Nikon has a bigger share, or should have a bigger share for the support they give the professional photographers.

Perhaps the person that I talked to does not really know what he was talking about.

Thank you for your reply.

Nikon has the largest share of "professional" photographers. In the common market (prosumers/amatuer photographers) Canon most likely dominates the regular consumer market. From what I see they have a broader armament of DSLRs for shutterbugs to take advantage of.

I live in Las Vegas and tons of people drift the streets with their cameras capturing photos. Canon is everywhere. Doesn't matter where they drifted in from the world. Canon's DLSRs are rampid with prosumers. You see a few Nikons here and there, but they are older D60's and such with the occasional upper end DSLR units. Nikon is really attemping to move into the market share now with the D5000 and the crappy D3000 (CCD sensor).

Nikon lives off reputation and perception. Even some "professionals" believe the best equipment makes them better. The camera can take a great image. But it's the person taking they image that makes it really great. Canon, Nikon, Olypmus, Pentax, Limux, and of course Nikon are all able to take that wonderful pictures.


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Feb 14, 2010 19:21 |  #37

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Nikon has the largest share of "professional" photographers.

Can I ask you what factual evidence you have for that claim?


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Feb 14, 2010 19:47 |  #38

I'm sure some of his best friends are Asian.

Yes,, I have many Lao friends but most aren't into photography.. The ones who are use P&S of different makes..

One Lao who works in my wife's office uses Canon (40D) but spent four years studying in Australia.. He bought most of his gear whilst abroad..

mikeassk wrote in post #9607714 (external link)
You realize that is just about the most ridiculous comment.

Why?? Have you ever travelled in Asia??

It's been my observation that in Asia, Asian people use Nikon DSLRs more than Canon..


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Feb 14, 2010 19:52 |  #39

Nikon is a much smaller company than Canon

Yes,, Nikon doesn't manufacture photocopiers as Canon does..


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Feb 14, 2010 19:58 |  #40

I'm sorry but whats a pro? is pro, Asian? thats the only thing I got from this thread ... :confused:


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Feb 14, 2010 20:09 |  #41

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I'm sorry but whats a pro? is pro, Asian? thats the only thing I got from this thread ... :confused:

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Feb 15, 2010 02:46 as a reply to  @ yogestee's post |  #42

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There are stringent requirements to become a CPS member. They basically want to make sure that members are working photographers. I worked for Canon in the early to mid 80's, and I know the CPS program has changed.

Canon USA has diluted this program so much that it doesn't hold its appeal. Through their multi-tiered membership and fee requirements virtually anyone can belong. I am thankful that Canon Canada has not gone this route.


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Feb 15, 2010 03:49 |  #43

yogestee wrote in post #9609862 (external link)
Why?? Have you ever travelled in Asia??

It's been my observation that in Asia, Asian people use Nikon DSLRs more than Canon..

ey yogestee, I am also in asia... :) and it seems that canon has a bigger market share here also.... (i am guessing though not base on facts)

and its true, a lot of pros here uses nikon gears more than canon


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Feb 15, 2010 06:48 |  #44

yogestee wrote in post #9609888 (external link)
Yes,, Nikon doesn't manufacture photocopiers as Canon does..

Or broadcast optics, or laser printer engines, or grahics printers or cd drives, or, or, or, or....... It is precisely this experience with the fusion of mechanics and electronics that gave Canon the edge over traditional mechanical camera (Nikon) manufacturers. Canon could call on the expertise of it's other divisions to develop cutting edge cameras. They held the lead for decades. It's not until recently that others like Nikon have been able to challenge, and in some ways surpass, Canon in the development and manufacture of Cameras.




  
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Feb 15, 2010 07:01 |  #45

yogestee wrote in post #9609862 (external link)
It's been my observation that in Asia, Asian people use Nikon DSLRs more than Canon..

The Facts don't seem to bear this out:

From Here: http://www.digitalphot​ographywriter.com …08-market-share-past.html (external link)

When looking at the digital SLR market share in Japan on 2008, you can see that both Canon and Nikon had the same market share of 39.0%. After that you can see Sony with 8.5% market share, Olympus with 3.8% market share, Pentax with 1.6% and Panasonic with 1.4%. So you can clearly see that Nikon was catching up pretty fast with their you DSLR cameras.

By looking at the top selling DSLR cameras in Japan on 2008, you can see that the top selling camera was the Canon rebel XSI with 19.1% market share, on the top second you can find Nikon D60 SLR camera with 10.9% market share, on the third-place the Nikon D80 with 10.6% and onto 4th place you can find the Nikon D40 with 9.1%. You can clearly see that Nikon is taking three places at the Pope for top-selling cameras in Japan on 2008, these are pretty amazing numbers, and it just means that Nikon has been doing their homework to understand what their customers need and provide it in a timely manner.




  
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