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Must haves for Landscapes - Sun burn out problems

 
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Jun 30, 2005 19:32 |  #1

Hi All,

I will be doing alot of Landscape photography for my website, in England during the summer. I will buy a wide angle and either a 350D or a 20D. Is there anything else that will help me to take great landscapes of hills and moors and lakes tc.

My problem is I do tend have no regard for the location of the sun as I just shot what ever angle of shot appeals to me (I am basically a happy snappy budget user that is upgrading). Is there a filter or something that will allow shoot regardless of the positon of the sun (hey I'm not going to point it directly at the sun!)?

My web page was shot with a Canon A45. So using an EOS with 10-22 should (I hope) make a BIG difference.

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Any tips? - Simon


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Jun 30, 2005 19:44 |  #2

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Jun 30, 2005 19:57 |  #3

Get a good wide angle lens, like the Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 (not avaialable yet), or the Tokina 12-24 (which i'm prob going to get soon).


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Jun 30, 2005 20:37 |  #4

You'll be in England... ??

No need to worry about the Sun then really......... :)


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Jun 30, 2005 23:34 |  #5

Theres always the "hood" which also doubles as rain protection that you'll also need...


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Jul 01, 2005 00:07 as a reply to  @ joeseph's post |  #6

The Canon A45 is not a bad camera by any means. Don't forget the laws of diminishing returns comes into play here. A DSLR will produce a better picture, no doubt. However, for your intended useage (webpage), it may be better, by less that you might hope.

Certainly a polariser will help reduce reflections and increase saturation, but unless you get a good one, might still suffer if you shoot with the sun in view. A good quality lens will help reduce any flare, as will a hood. Also a tripod may be necessary.

There is much more to taking a quality landscape photo than the equipment.

If you enjoy taking the photos and want to use the site as your showcase for your talent, then you will probably be happy with the improvement. I would say you wouldn't NEED to buy a DSLR.

I hope you make the move, because it makes photography much more satisfying - if very more expensive.

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Jul 01, 2005 00:17 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #7

Biggest problem I have taking Landscapes and not having the sun in best position is exposure. Taking JPEGS will tend to overexpose and give white skies (RAW will let you bring the sky back), you can meter from the sky and then have a dark forground. Options:

1. Check histogram and change exposure to suit.
2. Bracket exposure.
3. C Pol will help.
4. NG filter will make all the difference and best choice.
5. Always shoot with sun in best position.

I am no expert and users on this forum will prob give better advice.


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Jul 01, 2005 01:15 as a reply to  @ ghocking's post |  #8

ghocking wrote:
Biggest problem I have taking Landscapes and not having the sun in best position is exposure. Taking JPEGS will tend to overexpose and give white skies (RAW will let you bring the sky back), you can meter from the sky and then have a dark forground. Options:

1. Check histogram and change exposure to suit.
2. Bracket exposure.
3. C Pol will help.
4. NG filter will make all the difference and best choice.
5. Always shoot with sun in best position.

I am no expert and users on this forum will prob give better advice.

I am sure with a tripod and bracketing the exposure, if you have a little experience of photoshop, the NG filter will not be necessary. Using the best of each exposure (put them on layers first), will give the ultimate NG filter that can be controlled in the comfort of your chair and will not be restricted to a fixed area.

If you are using a tripod, you could use your body to shade the lens (or your hand if hand holding).

It's really worth exploring raw if your current camera supports it. It's rather more work, but you should see more flexibility.

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Jul 01, 2005 01:25 as a reply to  @ ghocking's post |  #9

Well I dropped my A45 about 8 times in all. It was a damned solid thing, well built and a great camera. But finally it fell to its death on a mountain in China. So I am forced to move on and buy a new one.

So I think I should upgrade, and I actually want to use my new camera for Interior shots as part of my job, so I figured I can kill 2 birds with one stone and get a DSLR with wide angle (10-22). Then when I go back home for a holiday in UK I can capture my home town in wide angle for my website.

If I use RAW do I need a massive memory card, especially if Im out all day hiking?

Cheers. Simon


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Jul 01, 2005 01:37 as a reply to  @ syburn's post |  #10

syburn wrote:
Well I dropped my A45 about 8 times in all. It was a damned solid thing, well built and a great camera. But finally it fell to its death on a mountain in China. So I am forced to move on and buy a new one.

So I think I should upgrade, and I actually want to use my new camera for Interior shots as part of my job, so I figured I can kill 2 birds with one stone and get a DSLR with wide angle (10-22). Then when I go back home for a holiday in UK I can capture my home town in wide angle for my website.

If I use RAW do I need a massive memory card, especially if Im out all day hiking?

Cheers. Simon

1gig sandisk ultra II's are about £65, Grab a couple and you will be good for about 250 shots in raw. Should be enough!

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Jul 01, 2005 04:14 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #11

Hi, So when you talk about RAW image, does it allow me to do more than I could do with a usuall JPG file. I have never used one before, so not really sure what the benefits are!!


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Jul 01, 2005 04:23 as a reply to  @ syburn's post |  #12

Raw is a way of shooting that just grabs the data from the sensor. A jpg file is a compressed file that loses data, during the compression process.

If you use photoshop or similar, you can use the raw data and make any modifications to the exposure, contrast and sharpness and then reduce to a jpg file. This ensures that the image is of the best quality and sometimes allows you to save a picture that was incorrectly exposed.

That is not a text book description by any means! but it gives you an idea of what it's advantage is. Give it a whirl if you can.

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Jul 01, 2005 05:52 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
You'll be in England... ??

No need to worry about the Sun then really......... :)

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Jul 01, 2005 05:58 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #14

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You'll be in England... ??

No need to worry about the Sun then really......... :)

:cry: That was below the belt!

I will have you know that it was VERY sunny here in England yesterday.............​..
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between the thunderstorms and torrential rain! :confused:


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Jul 01, 2005 06:40 as a reply to  @ dewmuw's post |  #15

Yer, don't tar us all with the same brush!

London is always sunny and the North West is always *raining.

Graham

*apart from yesterday.


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