Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 18 Feb 2010 (Thursday) 12:34
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Does this sound like a good "line-up"?

 
KarinMichelle
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 18, 2010 12:34 |  #1

I'm switching back to Canon for their greater variety of lenses. I plan to get the 24-70L 2.8 and the 70-200L 2.8 Non-IS. I'll be mostly taking pictures of my kids - some indoors playing soccer, and some outdoor soccer, sledding, etc. Does this sound like the best way to go? I've had the 70-200/4 IS, but think I'll need something faster for indoor sports. Can't afford (or carry!) the IS version of the 2.8, but don't think I need it. As for the 24-70L, I think it's an awesome versatile lens for every day. I've tried soccer pictures with primes, but always get too frustrated that I'm moving around the field and missing shots, or composing them wrong. I'd love some feedback and am super excited to get back to shooting! No idea what kind of body to get, but that will come later. I want the lenses first. I'll likely get a used body a bit later when I can afford it and, hopefully, the supposed newer bodies scheduled to be released will drop the prices down a bit. Sound like I'm on the right track here? Thanks guys. ;)

Oh - and can I shoot RAW when shooting sports? Does it tend to slow down the works a bit? I know I need a lot of memory... I'll have to see what to use for PP - do you all like DPP? Ok, done now, lol.

Thanks.


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dmp-potn
Senior Member
Avatar
489 posts
Joined Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
     
Feb 18, 2010 12:41 |  #2

You've obviously done this before! Most posts on this form by folks in the market for gear are all about the bodies, with glass as an afterthought. Lenses first is the way to go.

I don't think you'll be disappointed with those two, although the 24-70 is rather soft wide open. It depends on how much you care about sharpness at f/2.8. The 70-200 f/2.8 is not weather sealed, so if you're doing a lot of shooting in the snow, that could be a concern. As long as you have considered these issues and are ok with them, I'd say you're very much on-track.

Welcome back to Canon!


-- David

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 18, 2010 12:49 |  #3

Thank you! Yes, I have read that the 70-200L 2.8 is not weather-sealed. A bit of a downer, but I'll take that over the extra $500. Are the lens "coats" made for the purposes of protecting the lens in those situations? Forgive me, I'm a little naive about those things. I've never used one, nor felt the need to. I'm pretty sure I won't be doing much shooting in the rain and if it's snowing, I'll likely not be doing anything hard-core. Thanks again.

I should also mention that I had Nikon's D300s, which is a beauty of a camera, but soon realized that I missed the lenses more.

Guess this would be the lens coat: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …SBK_Canon_Lens_​Cover.html (external link)


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
birdfromboat
Goldmember
Avatar
1,839 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2008
Location: somewhere in Oregon trying to keep this laptop dry
     
Feb 18, 2010 13:20 |  #4

You are buying my two favorites! I have an aquatech cover that is very well made and works 100% except that it is difficult to manipulate the zoom and focus rings on the 70-200 and far too bulky for the shorter 24-70. I much prefer the way it works with my 100-400, the push pull being easier to use when the lens is covered. The IS and the extra length might be worth the extra bucks for outdoor shooting, but the 70-200 is still my favorite for indoor low light, I also have the non IS f2.8 version and it is spectacular.
I agree, the glass is where its at, and primes may be better but zooms do it for me just fine.


5D, 10D, G10, the required 100 macro, 24-70, 70-200 f/2.8, 300 f2.8)
Looking through a glass un-yun

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 18, 2010 13:22 |  #5

Great, thanks. And I won't be shooting full frame, so I'll have more reach obviously. Just wish I was a little bit richer. ;o)


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DStanic
Cream of the Crop
6,148 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Canada
     
Feb 18, 2010 18:39 |  #6

KarinMichelle wrote in post #9634141 (external link)
Oh - and can I shoot RAW when shooting sports? Does it tend to slow down the works a bit? I know I need a lot of memory... I'll have to see what to use for PP - do you all like DPP? Ok, done now, lol.

Thanks.

Shouldn't be an issue with xxD bodies or higher, which you would probably want anyways for the better AF abilities.


Sony A6000, 16-50PZ, 55-210, 35mm 1.8 OSS
Canon 60D, 30D
Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 17-35, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tohara
Senior Member
417 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Jun 2009
Location: Brisbane QLD Australia
     
Feb 18, 2010 18:47 |  #7

dmp-potn wrote in post #9634194 (external link)
I don't think you'll be disappointed with those two, although the 24-70 is rather soft wide open. It depends on how much you care about sharpness at f/2.8.

Welcome back to Canon!

Don't provide unverified speculation as factual data. My 24-70 is super sharp wide open and im very happy with its performance. If yours is not i suggest you send it back.

In relation to the OP those lenses will be perfect


500px (external link)
Sony A7r | Leica M6 Titanium | Ricoh GR1 | Nikon FM2 | Pink Lomo Sprocket Rocket
Zeiss 55mm f1.8 | Leica 35mm f2 Summicron ASPH | Polaroid Cool Cams (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dave ­ kadolph
"Fix the cigarette lighter"
Avatar
6,140 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Mar 2007
Location: West Michigan--166.33 miles to the Cook County courthouse
     
Feb 18, 2010 19:27 as a reply to  @ tohara's post |  #8

Karin--welcome to the neighborhood.

It is likely you will need something faster indoors--2.8 is marginal in most of the indoor soccer venues--but YMMV.

For both basketball and soccer the 85 f1.8 is my most used lens if I need to shoot available light.

If you are the "shoot tight" type the 40D would be a great choice--if you need more of a crop option the 50D may be better.

RAW is a great option unless you shoot mass volumes of images--you have more options and storage is dirt cheap.

Best of luck with your decision.


Middle age is when you can finally afford the things that a young man could truly enjoy.
Tools of the trade

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 18, 2010 20:29 |  #9

Thanks Dave. ;o)


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dmp-potn
Senior Member
Avatar
489 posts
Joined Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
     
Feb 19, 2010 06:33 |  #10

Hello,

tohara wrote in post #9636391 (external link)
Don't provide unverified speculation as factual data. My 24-70 is super sharp wide open and im very happy with its performance. If yours is not i suggest you send it back.

In relation to the OP those lenses will be perfect

I did send mine back. Two copies, in fact. I've shot with a friend's 24-70, and found it also to be soft at f/2.8. Bryan's ISO 12233 charts suggest the same thing with the center of the lens at least (corner sharpness is less of a concern for 1.6x body shooters):

http://the-digital-picture.com …&SampleComp=0&F​LI=0&API=0 (external link)

I've never seen a copy of the 24-70 that I would consider super sharp wide open, so perhaps everyone has their own definitions for "super sharp" and "soft". Cheers.


-- David

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 19, 2010 10:27 |  #11

The 17-55 2.8 IS is too short for me and too cheaply made, but KILLER sharp. Also has flare. Annoying. Wish the 24-70L was sharper at 2.8, but that's life. Bokeh's good.


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dmp-potn
Senior Member
Avatar
489 posts
Joined Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
     
Feb 19, 2010 11:05 |  #12

KarinMichelle wrote in post #9639848 (external link)
The 17-55 2.8 IS is too short for me and too cheaply made, but KILLER sharp. Also has flare. Annoying. Wish the 24-70L was sharper at 2.8, but that's life. Bokeh's good.

Wow. First complaint that I've seen about build quality of the 17-55. I don't own that lens (does not fit my bodies) but know about a half dozen folks who do and love 'em. Any 17-55 owners care to comment?


-- David

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 19, 2010 15:14 |  #13

It just isn't built like an L because, well, it isn't one.


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
chauncey
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,696 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 467
Joined Jun 2007
Location: MI/CO
     
Feb 19, 2010 16:04 as a reply to  @ KarinMichelle's post |  #14

Ya might want to wait on that 70-200 f/2.8 as canon is fixing to introduce a newer version sometime this year.


The things you do for yourself die with you, the things you do for others live forever.
A man's worth should be judged, not when he basks in the sun, but how he faces the storm.

My stuff...http://1x.com/member/c​hauncey43 (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarinMichelle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
109 posts
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Massachusetts
     
Feb 19, 2010 18:29 |  #15

Thanks Chauncey. Sometimes I feel like I have to wait forever! Digital photography can be so damn frustrating!!!


Karin
50D | 24-70L 2.8 | 70-200L 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,057 views & 0 likes for this thread, 8 members have posted to it.
Does this sound like a good "line-up"?
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2685 guests, 163 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.