Giving serious thought to buying a D300s

I agree with Will and Drew. You seem to be very focused on the Canon vs. Nikon equipment yourself, so it's no surprise your students are.

FWIW, I'm not confused by the brand issue, I'm confused by your posts in this thread. Good luck in achieving whatever it is you're trying to achieve.

amyandmark3 wrote in post #9636755
I agree with Will and Drew. You seem to be very focused on the Canon vs. Nikon equipment yourself, so it's no surprise your students are.

FWIW, I'm not confused by the brand issue, I'm confused by your posts in this thread. Good luck in achieving whatever it is you're trying to achieve.

agreed ^^ We still don't have a reason from ya why you don't like your cameras. I can't think of a situation where 5D2 and 7D combo would perform anything less then brilliant.

I don't understand what your dilemma is here exactly. Are you saying that your students and friends prefer Nikon over Canon, and that you lose some sort of "Credibility" with them using Canon yourself ?

Your the teacher and they are the students,They are there to learn and should respect your knowledge no matter what you shoot with. If they don't just flunk em'

amyandmark3 wrote in post #9636755
I agree with Will and Drew. You seem to be very focused on the Canon vs. Nikon equipment yourself, so it's no surprise your students are.

FWIW, I'm not confused by the brand issue, I'm confused by your posts in this thread. Good luck in achieving whatever it is you're trying to achieve.

You are right; with one exception.

It's the Canon students, it's the Nikon students who can only see one possible solution...Canon or Nikon...and on and on it goes.

I can't change the fact that most of the world seems to think they can't take a good picture if they don't use a Canon or Nikon camera or...at school anyway...they can't process a program if they aren't using a MAC or they aren't using a P.C.

Truth is...

Canon...Nikon...you will take a good picture.

MAC ... PC you will process a program.

So why fight it?

If I buy a D300c and shoot almost exactly the same picture I would have shot with a 7D...my Nikon students will say...cool...see how those 51 AF points made a difference.....

In the end, by using a Nikon, with folks that speak Nikon, I might actually be able to teach something.

And...truth is....

The same holds true with Canon.

I'll have students who will say...see how you could take that picture now that you have a 7D???

I probably would have shot the same picture with my long gone OM-1 with a 50mm lens.

It's not what makes me comfortable. It's what makes the students comortable.

And again, I will say, there's next to no difference, other than cost, between Nikon and Canon.

However, there are a lot of folks that have their ego's tied up in one brand or the other...and their ability to learn tied up in one brand or the other.

So, you meet yours students where they are at.

That's why I ask...

D300s...How do I get the most out of this camera for the least amount of lens investment.

Whatever makes your business work =)

I posted this before but I think it was ignored, what about third party lenses?

What don't y'all understand about the ops dillema? Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Sometimes you just can't tell people certain things. You have to SHOW them which is why the op wants to get the nikon.
D90 is pretty nice. You can't get that and a tamron 17-50vc and 70-300 and a 30 1.4 prime

What about the poor Pentax, Sony, or Olympus students?

crn3371 wrote in post #9637856
What about the poor Pentax, Sony, or Olympus students?

or Sigma or Fujifilm students? They are always forgotten.

Since this is a thread about "general" gear I've moved this to General Talk.

Seems strange to me that students don't "trust" you on Nikon (That's how I read the OP?) since you seem to have enough experience with Nikon.

I've been teaching photography classes as well, and there never was any "distrust" with either Nikon or Canon shooters: I used to use Nikon, been shooting Canon since the Eos 1n. Yet I still knew the Nikon cameras better then most students

If it was me, I would go for a cheap bottom of the range camera from any manufacturer and show them that can capture just as good an image as the top of the range one if used correctly

neilwood32 wrote in post #9640083
If it was me, I would go for a cheap bottom of the range camera from any manufacturer and show them that can capture just as good an image as the top of the range one if used correctly

Agree, if you just want to show your Nikon students that you can teach them then just buy D3000 D5000 D90+tam17-50 or something cheaper and produce some stunning shots. This will also make Sony Pentax Sigma etc. students understand that camera brand doesn't matter.

I shoot with D300 (not the D300s) for a while, I don't own it. Now I have 7D. Beside all ergo, menu, button layout .... things that N and C users swear by each brand, there are 2 things in D300 worth mentioned, I think the same applied for D300s:

1) D300 definitely sealed better, especially battery door, CF door, connection cover. After seeing the D300 implementation, I highly doubt 7D is sealed camera.

2) D300 has spot meter link to AF points, 7D still don't have this.

7D has much better implement on live view, not sure if D300s make any improvement in this aspect.

I like D300 AF point coverage better, almost entire viewfiner cover, very nice.

I also like how D300 grip is attached to the body. 7D with grip is definitely NOT a sealed body anymore.

Other things are pretty equal between the two. Honestly, if I were to start all over today, I will probably pick D300s over 7D, not because of D300s is better than 7D, it is more like Nikon's concept and upgrade path seems to better for me. I like D700 feature set much more than 5Dii.

Going to buy a Nikon D300s

I'm still ready to pull the trigger, waiting to experience the difference for myself.

Hardware is just that for me...hardware...Nikon.​..Canon...just a camera.

We have a camera club here in western Minnestota.

Most are Canon folks who, like me for years , are happy with Canon.

Yet, there are dedicated Nikon folks and I think they probably have good stuff.....can't say from experience.

So, I want a little experience.....

I'm ready to pull the trigger on a D300s. I'm not expecting miracles with the D300S...just want to know how it works in the real world...like my 7D.

I already know from research this is a top notch camera..the D300s.

I'm looking for an excuse to try out a Nikon D300s. I've got the direct competitor; the 7D....I already know this is a super camera...and I'm thinking the D300s is a super camera.

I'm hoping this is an open discussion....


Take care all....

westernminnguy wrote in post #9661083
I'm still ready to pull the trigger, waiting to experience the difference for myself.

Hardware is just that for me...hardware...Nikon.​..Canon...just a camera.

We have a camera club here in western Minnestota.

Most are Canon folks who, like me for years , are happy with Canon.

Yet, there are dedicated Nikon folks and I think they probably have good stuff.....can't say from experience.

So, I want a little experience.....

I'm ready to pull the trigger on a D300s. I'm not expecting miracles with the D300S...just want to know how it works in the real world...like my 7D.

I already know from research this is a top notch camera..the D300s.

I'm looking for an excuse to try out a Nikon D300s. I've got the direct competitor; the 7D....I already know this is a super camera...and I'm thinking the D300s is a super camera.

I'm hoping this is an open discussion....


Take care all....

OK, take care..
but looking at all the cameras you've bought - 1DIIn, 5D, 40D, 350D, 7D, 5DMKII, G2, etc. do you think you will be satisfied?

or is it you just gotta buy one more?

Not clear why you need another thread ?.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=829061

This will probably be moved just like your previous one.