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Are you a non-pro and own either 300 f/2.8IS or 400 f/2.8IS?

 
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Feb 22, 2010 03:32 |  #1

Does anyone here who is a non-pro owne either the Canon 300mm f/2.8 IS or 400mm f/2.8 IS? If so, I'm curious to know what you use it for and if you regret it or are happy with your purchase. Also, do you get a "lot" of use out of it?

I've been to several Olympic events the last week and have really wished for more reach (my longest is 200mm). I also have a kid whom I'd like to shoot (in sports, etc.) when he gets a bit older.

No one in Vancouver rents this lens (that I know of) and I don't love the hassle of renting either.


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Feb 22, 2010 03:35 |  #2

I am not a professional and own the 300mm ƒ/2.8 IS. I feel that I do get a lot of use out of it, I use it to photograph wildlife, frequently in conjunction with the 2x extender. I really love the sharpness of the lens, especially wide open, it's sharper wide open than most other lenses are at their sweet spot.


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Feb 22, 2010 03:44 |  #3

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I am not a professional and own the 300mm ƒ/2.8 IS. I feel that I do get a lot of use out of it, I use it to photograph wildlife, frequently in conjunction with the 2x extender. I really love the sharpness of the lens, especially wide open, it's sharper wide open than most other lenses are at their sweet spot.

Thanks for the opinion. Have you ever compared it to the 400mm f/2.8 IS?

Now I'm wondering if anyone who owns this lens thinks the sharpness reputation of this lens is overstated.


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Feb 22, 2010 04:35 |  #4

I am not pro and I have a 300L2.8 non IS .. and it's surely de best sharpness I can get between my for lenses 24L1.4II, 85L1.2II and 135L2.0 ...
I use it for sport (F1 QuadBike) and also Dog shows. But, I start to use it as walkaround for candids or landscape since I discovered Black Rapid's R-STRAP. With a 5DMKII it 's around 4kg so quite easy to carry without being tired.

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Feb 22, 2010 06:37 |  #5

I have the 300L 2.8 IS, and I love it. It is 85% on my 40D. It has excellent IQ with the 1.4 TC. It is much heavier than the f4, but it worth to carry all day (even + tripod+ head).




  
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Feb 22, 2010 07:11 |  #6

I just don't have the 300 f/2.8 because I lack the money for it. I'd buy it in no time if I could. :D


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Feb 22, 2010 07:15 |  #7

SunTsu wrote in post #9656659 (external link)
Now I'm wondering if anyone who owns this lens thinks the sharpness reputation of this lens is overstated.

The Non IS is very sharp if you use it right so I guess the IS version is too. I also have a 500 f/4 which I use for motorsport and as with quite a few people I know I turn off the IS.


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Feb 22, 2010 07:37 |  #8

I'm not a pro and I own the 300 2.8 IS. It gets a lot of use for shooting birds and other wildlife. The 400 2.8 didn't come into play when I was deciding as it's too heavy. The only thing I'd ever replace the 300 with is the 400 DO - if I suddenly became very rich.


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Feb 22, 2010 07:56 as a reply to  @ hollis_f's post |  #9

I also have the EF 300 f2.8 and believe me I'm no pro!! I was going back and forth in my head about this lens....1. should I just rent....2. is it to much $$ for a hobby...3. will i look like an idiot with it at events??? Well I decided to search for a good used one and was lucky enough to find one that I bought at a decent price. Let me tell you I have enjoyed the lens very much and have used it to shoot surfing(with 1.4x and 2x), Supercross, Zoo and just recently baseball. The lens is tack sharp and yeah its heavy but i've gotten used to it and normally use a monopod when I can. I can't wait to take it out to the roadraces for the AMA, WSBK and MotoGP series when they come around to the West coast. The EF 500 f4 is now on my wish list......

My advice is find an excellent used one if you can....they don't seem to depreciate much after that inital thump...good luck!


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Feb 22, 2010 09:11 |  #10

Defo not a pro but have the 300 2.8 IS, love it to bits and will not part with it. Would love the 500 f4 but until I can afford such a thing the 300 and TCs is better than damn good. I use it alot over the winter when I am out shooting from the hide, summer it is more for travel and used less. But for those shots I do take it is more than worth the money!


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Feb 22, 2010 09:32 |  #11

I've owned the 300 2.8 IS since Friday. Yes, it's probably overkill for what I do, but I love it! I'm shooting a local football team with it starting in the spring, and will get an extender for wildlife during the summer and see how I like it!

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Feb 22, 2010 10:05 |  #12

300mm f2.8 IS here as I have 500mm f4 IS also. Only hobbyist. Use for sports mainly. Only thing better than 300 as far as outdoor sports are concerned is 400mm f2.8 IS but it is heavier and more money.

Sharpness wise very very small difference which won't be noticeable in prints. If you have FF, then I would go for 400mm f2.8 IS as 300mm can be limiting depending on the sport.


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Feb 22, 2010 10:30 |  #13

SunTsu wrote in post #9656635 (external link)
Does anyone here who is a non-pro owne either the Canon 300mm f/2.8 IS or 400mm f/2.8 IS? If so, I'm curious to know what you use it for and if you regret it or are happy with your purchase. Also, do you get a "lot" of use out of it?

I've been to several Olympic events the last week and have really wished for more reach (my longest is 200mm). I also have a kid whom I'd like to shoot (in sports, etc.) when he gets a bit older.

No one in Vancouver rents this lens (that I know of) and I don't love the hassle of renting either.

Forgive me if I am giving information that you don't need ;), but there are less expensive ways to get greater reach than your 200mm. Maybe consider 300 4, 400 5.6, or a 100-400 or one of the sigma zooms. If you find that you enjoy taking pictures at those lengths, but you require either more sharpness or better low light capabilities, you can always sell one of those and purchase a 300 2.8 or 400 2.8.


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Feb 22, 2010 13:20 |  #14

Thanks for ALL the valuable feedback.

newworld666 wrote in post #9656762 (external link)
I am not pro and I have a 300L2.8 non IS .. and it's surely de best sharpness I can get between my for lenses 24L1.4II, 85L1.2II and 135L2.0 ...
I use it for sport (F1 QuadBike) and also Dog shows. But, I start to use it as walkaround for candids or landscape since I discovered Black Rapid's R-STRAP. With a 5DMKII it 's around 4kg so quite easy to carry without being tired.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=soMGTUWAsj0 (external link)

Just to makesure I understand, you believe this lens is sharper than the 85L II? I'm a bit intrigued that people use the 300 as a walk-around lens though.
Any reason you didn't get the 400 f/2.8 IS? Also, have you ever wished you had more reach and had purchased the 400 instead of the 300?

neil_r wrote in post #9657140 (external link)
The Non IS is very sharp if you use it right so I guess the IS version is too. I also have a 500 f/4 which I use for motorsport and as with quite a few people I know I turn off the IS.

Can you please help me understand why many people turn off the IS? I thought the lens auto-detected tripods.

Michael15 wrote in post #9657302 (external link)
I also have the EF 300 f2.8 and believe me I'm no pro!! I was going back and forth in my head about this lens....1. should I just rent....2. is it to much $$ for a hobby...3. will i look like an idiot with it at events???

I'm not a pro so I've been a bit concerned I'll look like an idiot with a big lens too. BTW, how do you get the lens in and out of events? In the case? I'm not a big fan of used equipment because I'm a bit too risk-adverse in that area.  :o

Neilyb wrote in post #9657609 (external link)
I use it alot over the winter when I am out shooting from the hide, summer it is more for travel and used less. But for those shots I do take it is more than worth the money!

You take the 300mm with you when you travel?!

rshmn wrote in post #9657725 (external link)
I've owned the 300 2.8 IS since Friday. Yes, it's probably overkill for what I do, but I love it! I'm shooting a local football team with it starting in the spring, and will get an extender for wildlife during the summer and see how I like it!

Any reason why you didn't get the 400?

bobbyz wrote in post #9657912 (external link)
300mm f2.8 IS here as I have 500mm f4 IS also. Only hobbyist. Use for sports mainly. Only thing better than 300 as far as outdoor sports are concerned is 400mm f2.8 IS but it is heavier and more money.

Sharpness wise very very small difference which won't be noticeable in prints. If you have FF, then I would go for 400mm f2.8 IS as 300mm can be limiting depending on the sport.

I don't think my wife would love me getting both 300 and 400 at the same time, so it's going to be one or the other (at least for now). I've got FF bodies now, but I'm flirting with the idea of getting a Mk IV. I figure if I get a Mk IV and a 300mm, it's about $9K. A 400mm is about $7K all by itself.

neurorog wrote in post #9658042 (external link)
Forgive me if I am giving information that you don't need ;), but there are less expensive ways to get greater reach than your 200mm. Maybe consider 300 4, 400 5.6, or a 100-400 or one of the sigma zooms. If you find that you enjoy taking pictures at those lengths, but you require either more sharpness or better low light capabilities, you can always sell one of those and purchase a 300 2.8 or 400 2.8.

Information is always appreciated. I didn't consider the less expensive options because that always seems to result in regret for me. Also, I loathe buying and selling stuff and every time I have thought I would sell something, I end up keeping it somewhere or giving it away.


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Feb 22, 2010 13:27 |  #15

SunTsu wrote in post #9659192 (external link)
Can you please help me understand why many people turn off the IS? I thought the lens auto-detected tripods.

I don't have IS on my 300 but for the 500 which I use on a monopod and move around quite a bit I find that I get sharper images with the IS off. I know that sounds counter intuitive, but that is how it works for me.

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