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May 13, 2010 21:47 |  #121

CCW for most of CA is nearly impossibe to get. So if he has one he is either off duty/retired cop, carries one because he is a courier (jewels or cash) or has applied and gotten one. It is not impossible for security to get one, but at least in the Bay Area / SF / SJ it is nearly impossible to get one. And costs at least a grand to even apply.

These security officers are way off base. The CA Powers to Arrest do not include trespass. The ONLY time a S/O can effect an arrest is when he physically see's a felony take place in front of him. The only exception is for loss prevention. The arrest must be made as a citizens arrest, and then must be turned over to the local LEO's. If these are unlicensed guards (quite possible if the work directly the production company) the company must have some serious liability insurance. Most security guards cannot get CCW's without some serious training, background checks and licensing. It requires exposed weapon training/licensing/ and then more hours of CCW training, firearms safety course, handgun safety course and then quals every 6 months. And of course it costs a fortune.

These photographers were on public access land, and so under no legal requirement to comply with private security orders. Private security can only work on private land. Now the photographers have several options.

1. Have the security officers arrested for assault and battery under the cover of authority. This requires that they go down and file complaints against the security staff. Then the DA HAS to respond. Anyone can file criminal charges against you it does not require the DA.
2. Have the officers carrying any weapons, lethal and non lethal produce their licenses on the spot they are required to carry them at all times. Once you get the names of the officers involved you can check their license status on line and file complaints againt them with the State of CA Bureau of Security and Investigative Services. Any complaint will get investigated and could get their licenses yanked. IF they have no licnese and are not full time employees of the company that was putting on the event, then that just adds another felony.
3. Hire an attorney, have them served for civil rights violations, both state and federal. Include their employer, and any parent companies.


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May 13, 2010 21:54 as a reply to  @ LBaldwin's post |  #122

I live in GA. Down here basically anyone can get a CCW as long as your not a felon, and take this instructional class.


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Aug 23, 2012 21:33 as a reply to  @ post 9725551 |  #123

Pardon for bumping an old thread, but what was the final outcome for the court case for the two photographers? I tried looking but all I get are articles about the court hearing, but not an actual conclusion or verdict to the case. Does anyone know?


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Aug 24, 2012 17:57 |  #124

c2thew wrote in post #14899074 (external link)
Pardon for bumping an old thread, but what was the final outcome for the court case for the two photographers? I tried looking but all I get are articles about the court hearing, but not an actual conclusion or verdict to the case. Does anyone know?

sorry, I don't know but (like most of these types of lawsuits) the case was probably was dismissed




  
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Aug 24, 2012 18:35 as a reply to  @ post 9725551 |  #125

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Aug 24, 2012 19:22 |  #126

why would a case dealing with battery/assault be dismissed out of court? I suppose the producers might have settled out of court, but there was almost no follow up to the case.


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Aug 25, 2012 09:20 |  #127

I'm not a fan of frivolous lawsuits but even I'd go to court over something like that. Probably start out with false imprisonment (external link), maybe a little false arrest (external link)(being that the guy had a badge would lead one to believe he's some type of LEO), and depending on what the local laws are you may even be able to get kidnapping (external link) thrown in as well. Afterwards I'd go after him in Civil Court as well and make it my mission in life to make sure he never held any type of security job ever again(at least in the U.S.) to prevent him from doing the same to someone else.


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