Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 08 Mar 2010 (Monday) 20:38
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Multi Stroboscopic?

 
30D'er
Senior Member
Avatar
315 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 08, 2010 20:38 |  #1

Could someone please help me with Multi Stroboscopic?

I'd like to have two flashes in one exposure. I make the setting in the flash and test fire with the button on the back of my 580EXII, no problem it fires twice.

Next I try firing from my 5D, and the flash only fires once?

What's up?


Gear
5D w/Grip, 30D w/grip, 24-70mm 2.8/f L, 70-200MM 2.8, L, 85MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.4/f,
580EX x 2, 580EX II, ST-E2, PIXMA PRO9500

ThinkTank 40, Airport Airstream & Belt System, Custom Bracket, and more!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
30D'er
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
315 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 08, 2010 20:57 |  #2

Oh, i should add, here are my proposed settings.

I'd like to set my 5D at approx 200 @ 28.-5.6f to kill ambient light.

My 580EXII at approx 1/4 - 1/16

And to complicate matters I'm using the new Pocket Wizards...

Too much?


Gear
5D w/Grip, 30D w/grip, 24-70mm 2.8/f L, 70-200MM 2.8, L, 85MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.4/f,
580EX x 2, 580EX II, ST-E2, PIXMA PRO9500

ThinkTank 40, Airport Airstream & Belt System, Custom Bracket, and more!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tim
Light Bringer
Avatar
51,010 posts
Likes: 375
Joined Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
     
Mar 08, 2010 21:06 |  #3

So you want multiple flashes in stroboscopic mode firing at the same time? Stroboscopic is where it flashes at (eg) five times a second for three seconds, or whatever you choose.

Have you read the manual to see if this is possible? My guess is it's not, because it's not really all that useful.

How about telling us what you're trying to achieve?


Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Titus213
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
19,403 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 36
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Kalama, WA USA
     
Mar 08, 2010 21:12 |  #4

After setting the flash you have to make sure the camera shutter speed is long enough to allow the completion of the flash sequence.


Dave
Perspiring photographer.
Visit NorwoodPhotos.comexternal link

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PacAce
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
26,900 posts
Likes: 40
Joined Feb 2003
Location: Keystone State, USA
     
Mar 08, 2010 21:31 |  #5

What are you trying to photography with the double flashes?

The shutter speed you are using is too fast to use the flash in Multi mode even at the highest frequency available. The maximum frequency you can set for Multi mode is 199 Hz. To fire two flashes at 199 Hz, you would need a shutter speed of around 0.01 second or 1/100 second. Unless the object or subject you are photographing is moving really fast, you probably won't see the effect of the double flash going off at 199 Hz.

Re the PW MiniTT1 and the FlexTT5, Multi mode is not yet supported by those units.


...Leo

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
30D'er
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
315 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 08, 2010 22:15 |  #6

I'm trying to achieve a double exposure of a person in motion in a dimmly lit room while killing the ambient light, using a single 580EXII. Doesn't sound like it should be hard.

Sounds like I'll have to use a PC cord (or the ST-E2?) to trigger the 580EXII, Titus you're right the new mini PW's don't have that feature apparently. It's the MultiMax's that have this feature.

Anyone know of a tutorial anywhere?


Gear
5D w/Grip, 30D w/grip, 24-70mm 2.8/f L, 70-200MM 2.8, L, 85MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.4/f,
580EX x 2, 580EX II, ST-E2, PIXMA PRO9500

ThinkTank 40, Airport Airstream & Belt System, Custom Bracket, and more!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PacAce
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
26,900 posts
Likes: 40
Joined Feb 2003
Location: Keystone State, USA
     
Mar 08, 2010 22:34 |  #7

Here's how you determine the parameters you need to set on the flash and the shutter speed on the camera.

First, determine how far apart you want the flashes to be. Say, for example, that you want the flashes to fire half a second apart from each other. That's a frequency of 2 flashes per second or 2 Hz.

Next, determine how many flashes you want to fire. You said you only want two flashes.

You'll also need to set the power level on the flash for each flash.

Set the frequency, the number of flashes and the power level on the flash.

To determine the shutter speed (in seconds) you need, divide the number of flashes by the frequency (n Hz). In the example above, that'll be 2 flashes / 2 Hz = 1. So, the shutter speed will need to be set to one second.


...Leo

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
30D'er
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
315 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: California
     
Mar 09, 2010 09:22 |  #8

Hi...Almost..

PacAce wrote in post #9757066 (external link)
Here's how you determine the parameters you need to set on the flash and the shutter speed on the camera.

First, determine how far apart you want the flashes to be. Say, for example, that you want the flashes to fire half a second apart from each other. That's a frequency of 2 flashes per second or 2 Hz. Exactly right

Next, determine how many flashes you want to fire. You said you only want two flashes. One 580EXII

You'll also need to set the power level on the flash for each flash. 1/16

Set the frequency, the number of flashes and the power level on the flash.

To determine the shutter speed (in seconds) you need, divide the number of flashes by the frequency (n Hz). In the example above, that'll be 2 flashes / 2 Hz = 1. So, the shutter speed will need to be set to one second.

Did that, but didnt fire?


Gear
5D w/Grip, 30D w/grip, 24-70mm 2.8/f L, 70-200MM 2.8, L, 85MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.8/f, 50MM 1.4/f,
580EX x 2, 580EX II, ST-E2, PIXMA PRO9500

ThinkTank 40, Airport Airstream & Belt System, Custom Bracket, and more!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Splatmaster527
Member
Avatar
171 posts
Joined Nov 2009
Location: Willoughby, OH
     
Mar 09, 2010 09:59 as a reply to  @ 30D'er's post |  #9

yes yousay you have done those but you say you are using a 1/200 shutter speed
which is way too fast
when doing stroboscopic you dont kill the ambient you make sure there isnt any
you have to do it in a dark situation


_______________
1D mkIII, 7D, 1D Mk2, 35-350 f3.5-5.6L, 17-40 f4.0L, 70-200 f2.8 L, 100 f2.0, 50 f1.8, 28-135 f3.5-5.6, 15-80 f3.5-5.6, 28-80 f3.5-5.6, Two 580EX II, Two Pocket Wizard Plus II, Pocket Wizard MultiMax, Interfit EXD400 Kit,
Powershot SX150, S3, S5, A590 (2), S70 w/ Waterproof dive case

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PacAce
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
26,900 posts
Likes: 40
Joined Feb 2003
Location: Keystone State, USA
     
Mar 09, 2010 11:32 |  #10

30Der wrote in post #9759469 (external link)
=30D'er;9759469]Hi...A​lmost..

Did that, but didnt fire?

By "number of flashes" I did not mean the number of flash units you are using. I meant the number of times the flash unit goes off (lights up). If I understood you correctly, you said you wanted that to be two flashes of light. :)

Did you say the flash did not fire? Not even once?

And what did you set the shutter speed to?

If you were following my example, the camera shutter speed should have been set to 1". And on the flash LCD screen, from left to right, you should see "1/16 2 2Hz" displayed.

And, of course, the flash should be sitting in the hotshoe unless it's connected via an off-shoe cord.


...Leo

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Titus213
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
19,403 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 36
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Kalama, WA USA
     
Mar 09, 2010 11:52 |  #11

Titus213 wrote in post #9756471 (external link)
After setting the flash you have to make sure the camera shutter speed is long enough to allow the completion of the flash sequence.

As I mentioned earlier....


Dave
Perspiring photographer.
Visit NorwoodPhotos.comexternal link

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,945 views & 0 likes for this thread, 5 members have posted to it.
Multi Stroboscopic?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is ANebinger
1087 guests, 177 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.