PBC can come up with ANYTHING but it wont be close to the octobank light! Neva!
AlejandroSandoval Goldmember  2,476 posts Joined Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Apr 20, 2010 21:46 | #16 PBC can come up with ANYTHING but it wont be close to the octobank light! Neva! Twitter
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Seanzky Goldmember  2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | Apr 20, 2010 21:54 | #17 tetrode wrote in post #10034089  PLM V2 with 7mm shaft and optional Elinchrom central mount adapter is still a go at the moment, Sean. That according to a post from PCB. Even so, if I were you, I'd hedge my bets and start working on a modified golf umbrella right about now. Dave F. Nooooo!
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Seanzky Goldmember 2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | Apr 20, 2010 21:56 | #18 dmward wrote in post #10034379 A question for you EChrom guys; The hang up seems to be the 7mm umbrella shaft hole. So, what is keeping all the DIYers from taking an 8mm drill and reaming the hole bigger? I find it hard to believe that there isn't 1mm of "stuff" available for the mod. The Echrom problem with the retro reflector is the light pattern. PCB has said that the PLM with the centered mounting system is still on track. I would never touch my Elinchrom with anything sharp let alone to re-drill the existing hole! To even suggest such a thing...! 
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Rudi Goldmember  3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Apr 20, 2010 23:09 | #19 I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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ed. Goldmember  2,978 posts Joined Oct 2006 Location: 2114.syd.nsw.au More info | seanzky wrote in post #10033884 What's the word on these PLM v2? If PCB backs out on making one for Elinchrom, what are our options? Do we pray for the v1 to come back in stock and mod it? Or if they never go back in stock should I buy a golf umbrella and modify that? Lol. Get the deep octa Alejandro Sandoval wrote in post #10034406 PBC can come up with ANYTHING but it wont be close to the octobank light! Neva! haha, you loving the rotalux huh. http://www.edwardhor.com
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TMRDesign Cream of the Crop  23,883 posts Likes: 12 Joined Feb 2006 Location: Huntington Station, NY More info | Apr 21, 2010 03:35 | #21 Rudi wrote in post #10034908 I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... I will not buy any more light modifiers... Hey! I think it's working!  A futile attempt, at best Rudi. Robert
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charlieharper Goldmember  1,583 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: South Australia More info | Apr 21, 2010 06:18 | #22 PCB wrote: Also - refresh Rob Galbraith page - Elinchrom's recessed flashtube and sub reflector is degrading Retro Laser's performance too much so Eli mount won't be offered at this point. Source .....http://www.paulcbuff-techforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=475
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tetrode THREAD STARTER I am a walking repository of thoroughly useless information  3,777 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2006 Location: New York More info | Apr 21, 2010 09:53 | #23 charlieharper wrote in post #10036209 Source .....http://www.paulcbuff-techforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=475 Austen. That applies to the Retro-Laser reflector only and we're talking primarily about the PLM V2 in this thread. From Rob Galbraith's update:
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PacAce Cream of the Crop  26,900 posts Likes: 40 Joined Feb 2003 Location: Keystone State, USA More info | Apr 21, 2010 10:10 | #24 dmward wrote in post #10034379 A question for you EChrom guys; The hang up seems to be the 7mm umbrella shaft hole. So, what is keeping all the DIYers from taking an 8mm drill and reaming the hole bigger? I find it hard to believe that there isn't 1mm of "stuff" available for the mod. The Echrom problem with the retro reflector is the light pattern. PCB has said that the PLM with the centered mounting system is still on track. The umbrella tube runs the full length of the strobe body. I think I would have a hard time finding a drill that's long enough to let me drill out 1mm off the entire length of the umbrella tube. And assume I did drill out the tube and make it 8mm, what am I going to do with the Elinchrom modifiers I have now since they're not going to stay put in the umbrella tube any longer with the tube being made wider. I guess I've have to mod those, too, then to make them thicker. ...Leo
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tetrode THREAD STARTER I am a walking repository of thoroughly useless information 3,777 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2006 Location: New York More info | Apr 21, 2010 10:14 | #25 I pictured you as being older, Sean.
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Apr 21, 2010 10:18 | #26 He's better-looking than I thought... • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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Seanzky Goldmember 2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | Apr 21, 2010 10:20 | #27 I'm still baby-faced, Dave, but more of a stud now.
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Seanzky Goldmember 2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | May 11, 2010 12:03 | #28 Just to update this thread, here's what I read from an FM thread, posted by PCB: We are making major improvements that include on-axis speedring mount for Buff and Elinchrom lights, and even higher output and focusability, as well as improved evenness across the face of front diffuser when used, adjustable 7mm shaft length when used without speedring. Balancing all these requirements and controlling fabric sewing accuracy and quality from China is exceedingly difficult. We will be filing patents on this design. Should know more about time projections next week. http://www.fredmiranda.com …pic/805037/18#lastmessage There is no time division between Einstein and PLM V2. Our excellent China molder/tool and die/metal work vendor has hired an engineer with umbrella experience to get my designs properly translated to high quality and accurate products. The China umbrella companies themselves are poor at design work and keep sending us samples that don't meet my specs . . . we've been through three of them so far . . . the same vendors that supply B&H and most other lighting manufacturers. The first one pirated our V1 designs . . . that's where to knockoffs come from. V2 will have patents filed to keep the copycats away. I am expecting new samples in a few days and will see how good a job the engineer does. As soon as I am satisfied with the final product we should be able to make as many as customers can order in short time. White PLMs are easy to make and not very shape-dependent. But the silver versions use highly reflective fabrics and control of the shape and geometry is crucial to optimal performance. This is what has slowed the process down.
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poopinmymouth Member  180 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: Cologne, Germany More info | May 11, 2010 12:39 | #29 I thought one big selling point he pushes is the made in the USA aspect. What´s all this China stuff? I have nothing against China, or products from there, but it seems if a company pushes hard as a domestic product in their advertising, it should be made domestically. Why can't he find an American mold maker and metal worker? Lighting Blog: http://mr-chompers.blogspot.com
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Seanzky Goldmember 2,888 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: TX More info | May 11, 2010 12:47 | #30 poopinmymouth wrote in post #10161678 I thought one big selling point he pushes is the made in the USA aspect. What´s all this China stuff? I have nothing against China, or products from there, but it seems if a company pushes hard as a domestic product in their advertising, it should be made domestically. Why can't he find an American mold maker and metal worker? He has stated that there are no seamstress to be found anywhere in America that does umbrellas... or something to that extent. He also used to advertise "Made in USA" on a banner on his site which he no longer does since he stopped making whatever product it was here in the US.
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