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CANON 85 f/1.8 vs 100 f/2 and depth of field

 
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Mar 09, 2010 15:15 |  #1

I searched but couldn't find anything and I also looked at the Online Depth of Field calculator but couldn't figure it out for the answer I'm looking for - Which one of the above mentioned lenses would give me more background blur if the subject is framed the same (not shot from the same distance) and both lenses are used wide open?


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Mar 09, 2010 15:25 |  #2

pixel_junkie wrote in post #9761895 (external link)
I searched but couldn't find anything and I also looked at the Online Depth of Field calculator but couldn't figure it out for the answer I'm looking for - Which one of the above mentioned lenses would give me more background blur if the subject is framed the same (not shot from the same distance) and both lenses are used wide open?

you wont notice any difference but what i can tell you is that the 85 is not very sharp wide open and is prone to CA wide open - at least the one I had was - FWIW;)


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Mar 09, 2010 15:44 as a reply to  @ I Simonius's post |  #3

Thank you. I had 2 85s, one of them was sharper. Lots of CA with both, you're right. Now I have the 100 f/2 which to me, in terms of performance, is 99% a 135L. But was curious about the DOF, since one of them is faster and the other longer.


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Mar 09, 2010 17:46 |  #4

I think if they're framed the same, the 85mm f/1.8 should give you a bit less depth of field and more background blur.


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Mar 10, 2010 01:51 as a reply to  @ jerryr56's post |  #5

the 135 will give the best background blur;)


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Mar 10, 2010 02:21 |  #6

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They look pretty much the same. The 85/1.8 might be a smidgen bigger...but who's gonna notice in an actual picture?




  
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Mar 10, 2010 03:33 as a reply to  @ toxic's post |  #7

I had a 85 in hand,
what i can say is the wide open is sharp.
only the ever 1 downside of this lens is the CA and LoCA is a disaster


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Mar 10, 2010 05:32 |  #8

I know the 85 is a popular lens, but the excessive purple fringing is a deal breaker for me. It does make a good indoor sports lens on a crop body.


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Mar 10, 2010 05:42 |  #9

Wide open, they're about the same. But, as mentioned already, you'll get some CA at 1.8 with the 85mm. Because of this, I purchased the 100mm 2.0. My favorite trait of the 100mm is its outstanding background blur. Its a very underrated lens.




  
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Mar 10, 2010 06:30 |  #10

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They look pretty much the same. The 85/1.8 might be a smidgen bigger...but who's gonna notice in an actual picture?

the distance to subject tends to be greater with 135 so that helps with the bokeh

No bokeh like the 85 f1.2 though but that doesnt focus fast enough to catcha tortoise


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Mar 10, 2010 07:07 |  #11

Couple thoughts on my 85mm f/1.8. I usually shoot with it at 2.0. The CA (purple fringing) happens a lot, but not when (on rare occasions) the exposure is perfect. As far as BG, here's a good example of what it looks like at high ISO, f/2 and probably 1/640 on the shutter:

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No CA on this shot. Also, the players were probably 10' in front of me, the crowd in BG probably 75' from the lens. Did run NR because it was shot with a 50D which was prone to LOTS of noise at higher ISO settings.

Final word: The BG blur on the 85 f/1.8 is pretty sweet when the subject and BG align in a good way.

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Mar 10, 2010 08:18 |  #12

pixel_junkie wrote in post #9761895 (external link)
I searched but couldn't find anything and I also looked at the Online Depth of Field calculator but couldn't figure it out for the answer I'm looking for - Which one of the above mentioned lenses would give me more background blur if the subject is framed the same (not shot from the same distance) and both lenses are used wide open?

With the same framing, the 85 1.8 will have a slightly shallower DOF.

Sensor Size: Full Frame
Focal Length: 85mm
Aperture: f/1.8
Subject Distance: 8.5ft
Total DOF: 0.32ft

Sensor Size: Full Frame
Focal Length: 100mm
Aperture: f/2.0
Subject Distance: 10ft
Total DOF: 0.35ft


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Mar 10, 2010 08:29 |  #13

The 85 will have slightly shallower DOF when both are wide open, but the 100 will show probably a tiny bit more background blur (due to the narrower AOV).


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Mar 10, 2010 09:34 as a reply to  @ Jman13's post |  #14

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Mar 10, 2010 09:37 |  #15

BenJohnson wrote in post #9766595 (external link)
With the same framing, the 85 1.8 will have a slightly shallower DOF.

Sensor Size: Full Frame
Focal Length: 85mm
Aperture: f/1.8
Subject Distance: 8.5ft
Total DOF: 0.32ft

Sensor Size: Full Frame
Focal Length: 100mm
Aperture: f/2.0
Subject Distance: 10ft
Total DOF: 0.35ft

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