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Mar 12, 2010 08:17 |  #1

out of

Sigma 30mm 1.4
canon 50mm 1.4
Canon 85mm 1.8

Indoor, low light, portrait stuff only.

I'd probably look to get them all eventually, but the first one will be an instant buy along with my 7D/15-85IS bundle, the other two will probably be at least 6 months down the line.

I know there is no 'best' answer, but I'd like your opinons, and perhaps some example shots. I have a slight concern whether the 30mm 1.4 distorts faces at all? I had an 85 1.8 for a while and found it long but manageable indoors.


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Mar 12, 2010 08:22 |  #2

i'd also look at the sigma 50mm f/1.4;)




  
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Mar 12, 2010 08:27 |  #3

Indoors you'll get the most use out of the 30.


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Mar 12, 2010 08:32 |  #4

Really, nobody will be able to give you a good answer on this (I would choose the 85 f/1.8 -- but that's me)

Have you looked at the sample photo section? Look through the shots there for each of the lenses you are considering; pay particular attention to the shots taken with a crop sensor camera. There you should see results for the lenses, doing the kind of photography that you think you might be doing or want to do. That is how I choose my 60mm and my 17-55 over other lenses that I was considering at the time.

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Mar 12, 2010 08:33 |  #5

50mm lens is a must have in anyone's bag. The 85 is too long especially for a crop. The 30mm is too wide for some close ups and portraits.


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Mar 12, 2010 08:35 |  #6

drumsfield wrote in post #9781284 (external link)
50mm lens is a must have in anyone's bag. The 85 is too long especially for a crop. The 30mm is too wide for some close ups and portraits.

The Sigma focuses from 15 inches.


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Mar 12, 2010 09:11 |  #7

i would try the sigma 30mm for a APS-C body. the crop factor makes the lens almsot 50mm so it's perfect for indoors. That's my next lens on my list. I also like the 50 1.4.




  
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Mar 12, 2010 09:28 |  #8

scuzy wrote in post #9781510 (external link)
i would try the sigma 30mm for a APS-C body. the crop factor makes the lens almsot 50mm so it's perfect for indoors. That's my next lens on my list. I also like the 50 1.4.

But it's got the perspective of a 30mm wide, It's not a flattering FL for portraiture.

I'd go for the 50mm.


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Mar 12, 2010 09:46 as a reply to  @ drumsfield's post |  #9

The fact is that ANY of those lenses will work. The best choice for the OP is subject to their own preferences and shooting style. That is something only they can determine for themselves.

Personally, I prefer to use the 70-200, even indoors, but would usually grab my 85/1.8 for the added stop and a third. If I owned a 135/2, I would probably grab it instead. My preference is to crop tightly without interfering with the subject (ie: stand back but get close). But that's just me...


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Mar 12, 2010 10:14 |  #10

hairy_moth wrote in post #9781281 (external link)
Really, nobody will be able to give you a good answer on this (I would choose the 85 f/1.8 -- but that's me)

Have you looked at the sample photo section? Look through the shots there for each of the lenses you are considering; pay particular attention to the shots taken with a crop sensor camera. There you should see results for the lenses, doing the kind of photography that you think you might be doing or want to do. That is how I choose my 60mm and my 17-55 over other lenses that I was considering at the time.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=107


thanks. How did I never notice that forum before, its amazing!?

so the 30mm (although being 'longer' on a crop) will still have the perspective of a 30mm? (I find it difficult to understand that crop/FF perspective/crop thing)? That might rule it out as a contender.

Maybe an 85 1.8 and the nifty fifty to see how I get on with a 50mm before deciding whether to replace it with a 1.4?


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Mar 12, 2010 10:24 |  #11

mrklaw wrote in post #9781876 (external link)
so the 30mm (although being 'longer' on a crop) will still have the perspective of a 30mm? (I find it difficult to understand that crop/FF perspective/crop thing)? That might rule it out as a contender.

Absolutely NOT! Perspective is solely a function of the distance between the subject and the sensor. The 30mm lens on a 1.6 crop body will have the same perspective as a 48mm lens on a full frame body if both are located at the same distance from the subject. What will change with focal length for a given aperture is the Depth of Field.




  
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Mar 12, 2010 11:08 |  #12
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Mar 12, 2010 11:23 |  #13

I would say the Sigma 30mm for indoor too!


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Mar 12, 2010 11:31 |  #14

Indoor on a crop for portraits, I'd go with the 50mm 1.4.


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Mar 12, 2010 15:24 as a reply to  @ Rey's post |  #15

new, more patient plan, what do you think?:

buy 7D and 15-85IS.

Spend some time with the lens set to 30/50/85 as pretend primes and see how I get on.

Then buy the prime I consider my most usable length first.


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