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lauderdalems
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Mar 12, 2010 10:25 |  #1

I do very very little flash photography, so I need a little help here. Using the 580exII on hotshoe.

Question - what is the range limit using a diffuser outdoors (late evening/night) or in a large room with a high ceiling? Or should I just be using direct flash.

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Mar 12, 2010 10:33 |  #2

It would depend to an extent on which diffuser you are thinking of.




  
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Mar 12, 2010 10:35 |  #3

If outdoors, what do you plan on bouncing off? A diffuser is useless otherwise.


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Mar 12, 2010 11:11 |  #4

lauderdalems wrote in post #9781961 (external link)
I do very very little flash photography, so I need a little help here. Using the 580exII on hotshoe.

Question - what is the range limit using a diffuser outdoors (late evening/night) or in a large room with a high ceiling? Or should I just be using direct flash.

Thanks


Go to this site http://www.presslite.c​om/flashdiffuser.php (external link) and scroll down to the third image near the bottom of the page. Look at the column titled "Outdoors at Night." You will see that without any bounce surfaces available, all the diffused effects are like direct flash.

The middle column titled "Indoors" shows the effects of various diffusers, umbrella, etc. working with the ceiling and perhaps walls and floor. You will see that an ordinary ceiling bounce produces the least amount of shadows.

High ceiling matters, but don't discount bouncing off of it until you've tried it. Check out No more excuses about high ceilings and bounced flash https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=451770




  
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Mar 15, 2010 20:25 |  #5

interesting link. Thanks

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Mar 16, 2010 09:38 |  #6

Thanks for the link. Now to find a place and time to test.


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Mar 16, 2010 10:07 as a reply to  @ lauderdalems's post |  #7

Consider the Demb Flash Diffuser Pro

I have no connection with Joe Demb except that I am a very satisfied customer. www.dembflashproducts.​com (external link)

I particularly like Joe's Flash Diffuser Pro (DFD) which consists to two parts: the adjustable angle Flip-It reflector and the diffuser screen (see images).

The DFD is extremely versatile because, the angle of the Flip-It reflector is variable. Using the Flip-It in the forty-five degree forward angle, most of the flash is reflected directly towards the subject and the unit can be used in this configuration even outdoors or when there is no decent ceiling off which to bounce. It provides soft and even lighting without the "deer-in-the-headlights" look of direct flash.

The DFD provides excellent light when used with a flash bracket but also provides very nice lighting when used on the hotshoe in both the horizontal and the vertical positions. I have frequently used it on an old Siegelite flash bracket but, I have no hesitation in using it on the hotshoe. The Demb Flash Bracket looks quite interesting and I purchased one but, have not received it yet, for my forthcoming trip to China because of its light weight and extremely compact size. My Siegelite bracket is a bit awkward for traveling and I would not even consider my Stroboflash Bracket because of weight and packing concerns (my carry-on limit for China Air is 5 kg. or 11 lbs.).

The DFD can fit virtually any hotshoe flash and I use mine interchangeably on my 420EX and 550EX. However when I use my tiny 270EX, I will use a Joe Demb Mini Flip-It which I believe that Joe now calls a Photojournalist model. This unit fits just fine on my 270EX and using the Flip-It on the 270EX corrects many of the problems of the 270EX such as the inability to rotate and the close proximity of the flash head to the lens which may cause red eye effect. I always have the 270EX and Flip-It with me in the pocket of my photo vest because they weigh next to nothing and the 270EX + Flip-It often comes in handy at times when I choose not to carry a larger flash.


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