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Mar 14, 2010 05:47 |  #1

I've never built my own desktop, my brother helped me out with this. I want a solid rig for editing - tell me what you guys think of this. Everything here is basically my whole budget (+/- $1200).

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The case I chose because I like the small form factor but I'm open to suggestions.

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Mar 14, 2010 16:57 |  #2

Is this solely for photos or do you plan to do anything else with it? If not the video card is overkill. The integrated graphics will be more than enough for photos.

Do you prefer AMD?

I'll look for some small form factor cases that are a little cheaper. I now Cooler Master has a couple (341 and 541 IIRC).


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Mar 14, 2010 17:02 |  #3

Looks like a pretty decent machine.


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Mar 14, 2010 19:45 |  #4

Silverstone are excellent cases, Daros. Occasionally, Newegg will have small form factor cases on for less. But quality is among the best (at least in the 2 Silverstone's I've worked with in builds). It's rare that small-form cases will have 3x 120mm fans; typically, they are 60-80mm (due to size constraints). Bigger fans means you can move the same amount of air at much slower rpms, and hence A LOT LESS NOISE! Not a big deal for some people....but for me, SILENCE IS GOLDEN! :D :D

Biggest suggestion I would make -- if $1200 (US) is your budget, scrap the AMD 955 chip and head straight for Intel's i7-860, i7-920, or the new i7-930. You'll have to get a new motherboard to fit it as well (an 1156 board for the 860....a 1366 for the 920/930). Overall costs is more, but it'll be so worth it if you want the best editing rig for your budget.

Only get the 5770 vid card....if you plan to use it for gaming. Otherwise, you're overpaying by about $100 for what you really need, and you really won't see the difference. A $50-60 ATI card will do 99.9% of things of the twice-more expensive card with respect to typical photography needs (Photoshop, LR, etc.). Put that $100 towards an Intel i7 chip!!!

Great deal on the OCZ psu. For $45 after rebate, you really can't get much better than that. 550w is plenty. If there's an even better deal on a 450-500w OCZ psu, I think that's plenty for a non-gaming rig.

Corsair is great memory. If you were to switch to the i7 Intel chip, you'd bump up to DDR3 memory. In which case you'd want to get appropriate memory....2x2gb or 3x2gb, depending on the chip.


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Mar 14, 2010 22:24 |  #5

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Is this solely for photos or do you plan to do anything else with it? If not the video card is overkill. The integrated graphics will be more than enough for photos.

Do you prefer AMD?

I'll look for some small form factor cases that are a little cheaper. I now Cooler Master has a couple (341 and 541 IIRC).

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I ama gamer. My brother suggested that 5770 because he knows that. As far as AMD vs. Intel, to be honest I don't know much about the technical differences and am going solely off my brother's recommendation because he's a firm proponent of AMD chips (he's quite a computer enthusiast, built 10-20 custom PC's in his spare time).

Thanks for the help, Mike, appreciate it!

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Looks like a pretty decent machine.

Thanks 711 :)

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Silverstone are excellent cases, Daros. Occasionally, Newegg will have small form factor cases on for less. But quality is among the best (at least in the 2 Silverstone's I've worked with in builds). It's rare that small-form cases will have 3x 120mm fans; typically, they are 60-80mm (due to size constraints). Bigger fans means you can move the same amount of air at much slower rpms, and hence A LOT LESS NOISE! Not a big deal for some people....but for me, SILENCE IS GOLDEN! :D :D

Thanks for that info - what do you think of: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6835118115 (external link) ? I believe it would fit in the Silverstone.

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Biggest suggestion I would make -- if $1200 (US) is your budget, scrap the AMD 955 chip and head straight for Intel's i7-860, i7-920, or the new i7-930. You'll have to get a new motherboard to fit it as well (an 1156 board for the 860....a 1366 for the 920/930). Overall costs is more, but it'll be so worth it if you want the best editing rig for your budget.

Only get the 5770 vid card....if you plan to use it for gaming. Otherwise, you're overpaying by about $100 for what you really need, and you really won't see the difference. A $50-60 ATI card will do 99.9% of things of the twice-more expensive card with respect to typical photography needs (Photoshop, LR, etc.). Put that $100 towards an Intel i7 chip!!!

Thanks for your suggestion, I'll have to research a little more into the chips because my knowledge is a little sketchy. I am trying to keep costs down as much as possible, but at the same time if the benefits outweigh the costs then I think I can afford to stretch a little.

Overall, even though I am a gamer, I would be using this rig primarily for photo editing. Thanks for the helpful comments, guys.


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Mar 15, 2010 00:46 |  #6

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I ama gamer. My brother suggested that 5770 because he knows that. As far as AMD vs. Intel, to be honest I don't know much about the technical differences and am going solely off my brother's recommendation because he's a firm proponent of AMD chips (he's quite a computer enthusiast, built 10-20 custom PC's in his spare time).

The main reason for this (at least historically) is because AMD gave you nice 'n high *native* clock speeds for considerably less than a comparable Intel chip. An Intel chip at 2.6ghz might be slightly more than a comparable 3.2ghz AMD chip. And for gaming, it's mostly about the clock speed.

Factor in that AMD chips overclock nicely....it's much easier to get a 3.2ghz chip up to 4.2ghz than the Intel chip starting out at .6ghz slower.

IOW, for gamers, clock speed has always been of critical importance. But with the move to dual and now quad cores, programs like Photoshop can utilize lots of cores for processing with out outrageously high clock speeds. Great for heat and power management too!!

If you read benchmarks, the latest i3/i5/i7 chips pretty much destroy comparable AMD chips. It use to be that AMD dominated the sub-$200, but the i3 and i5 changed all that. When you can get an i3 at Microcenter for (now) $90, there is not an AMD chip on the planet that will do what the i3 can do for that price. Same deal with the i5's.

It's not that the AMD chips are bad; they're not! Just that the new i-Series of Intel chips has really left the competition in the dust.

Thanks for that info - what do you think of: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6835118115 (external link) ? I believe it would fit in the Silverstone.

Actually the stock fans for both the AMD and Intel chips are fine....unless you are really trying to cut down the sound OR if you want to overclock.

Zalmans are quality fans, as is that one. Once you decide on a chip (and hence socket form), then pick an aftermarket fan-sink accordingly. Zalmans make about the best low-profile HSF's, among the ones I've seen up close.

Thanks for your suggestion, I'll have to research a little more into the chips because my knowledge is a little sketchy. I am trying to keep costs down as much as possible, but at the same time if the benefits outweigh the costs then I think I can afford to stretch a little.

From all the benchmarks I've seen, the i5/i7 quads are totally worth the small extra cost.

Overall, even though I am a gamer, I would be using this rig primarily for photo editing. Thanks for the helpful comments, guys.

If the games are 3+ years old, you may find that the $50-70 vid cards do them pretty close to perfection.


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Mar 15, 2010 01:23 |  #7

What's a good mobo to go for if I decided to go with the i7-860? Is this good?: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6813128412 (external link)

Also, will I need to change anything else on the list if I decide to go with the intel chip?


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Mar 15, 2010 08:26 |  #8

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What's a good mobo to go for if I decided to go with the i7-860? Is this good?: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6813128412 (external link)

Also, will I need to change anything else on the list if I decide to go with the intel chip?

I posted this in another current thread. Any of these would work fine with the i7 860. The one ASUS is a mATX, but otherwise all seem to have some great specs. I would probably go with this ASUS since it has an eSATA port, which the Gigabyte does not.

http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6813131620 (external link)

The rest of the list is fine except the memory. You'll need DDR3. Something like this 1600Mhz:

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Or this 1333MHz:

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I bought the OCZ for my HTPC and have no issues.


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Mar 15, 2010 08:48 |  #9

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What's a good mobo to go for if I decided to go with the i7-860? Is this good?: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6813128412 (external link)

Also, will I need to change anything else on the list if I decide to go with the intel chip?

That's an ATX board....so it won't fit in your Silverstone HTPC case.

There's one Gigabyte mATX board that looks like it would work as a substitute, but the reviews of it that I dug up make me a *little* weary recommending it. Could be nothing...or it could be like a previous Gigabyte board of my own that was very finicky.

I'd look for an ASUS mATX board (speaking for myself).

As for "anything else"....if you decide to go with the i7-860, you'll need to look at DDR3 RAM. 1333mhz is the native bus for this chip, but any ASUS/Gigabyte board will overclock it *very easily* to 1600mhz. I'd look for a pair (2x2gb) 1600mhz memory sticks, and see how that goes. If you know you need a lot of memory for Photoshop, then you might want to go ahead and get 4x2gb.


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Mar 15, 2010 09:05 |  #10

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That's an ATX board....so it won't fit in your Silverstone HTPC case.

DOH! I didn't even think about that!

I'd look for an ASUS mATX board (speaking for myself).

Same here. I just bought the P7H55-M Pro for my HTPC and it is nice. The EVO adds USB3 and SATA 6. The only thing I don't like about it is that only the CPU fan and Chassis fan are controllable. So the 3rd fan port runs full speed. You'll need a fan splitter or some home made splitting to help keep noise down from fast fans. You'll also need to set the RAM speed manually if you get anything above 1067 it appears. I had to set mine and it seems to be a trend based on the reviews.


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Mar 15, 2010 09:14 |  #11

i recently going for upgrade my desktop... out goes the athlon 64 3200 from 8 years ago.

I oped for Athlon 2 X4 630 with gigabyte motherboard with 890gx. USB3, sata 6gb and future support of 6 cores.

http://www.newegg.com …TabStoreType=&s​rchInDesc= (external link)

8 gig DDR3 1600 memory.

My budget is only 500 and that pretty much set me at 450.

From your list and if you are doing photo edit only. Like everyone above have said, probably ditch the graphics card. It does not really help all that much. DDR3 memory might be a more worth while investment.

If you can afford it with your budget more than twice of mine, go for i7. There is no amd CPU can touch it. However, I think the potential for athlon x4 with ddr3 ram + sata 6gb hdd can still be a stellar machine. Which is the direction i am going for. Plus anything will be a significant upgrade over my old athlon. It will no longer be my batch-over-night machine.


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Mar 15, 2010 09:39 as a reply to  @ rogazilla's post |  #12

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Same here. I just bought the P7H55-M Pro for my HTPC and it is nice. The EVO adds USB3 and SATA 6. The only thing I don't like about it is that only the CPU fan and Chassis fan are controllable. So the 3rd fan port runs full speed. You'll need a fan splitter or some home made splitting to help keep noise down from fast fans. You'll also need to set the RAM speed manually if you get anything above 1067 it appears. I had to set mine and it seems to be a trend based on the reviews.

I was just looking at the P7H55D-M EVO (external link), I may go for that. But you mentioned it adds sata 6? The desc only lists sata 3Gb/s.

Interestingly, if I drop the 5770 and just go with this (external link), all in all the whole i7 rig will go for only $30-40 more than my original list - which really isn't bad at all.


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Mar 15, 2010 10:20 |  #13

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I was just looking at the P7H55D-M EVO (external link), I may go for that. But you mentioned it adds sata 6? The desc only lists sata 3Gb/s.

Sorry I meant eSATA! :o

Interestingly, if I drop the 5770 and just go with this (external link), all in all the whole i7 rig will go for only $30-40 more than my original list - which really isn't bad at all.

The 4650 is more than capable for photos, not sure on the gaming aspect. Hell, I have a 3450 in my i7. ;) (not a misprint!)


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Mar 15, 2010 15:02 |  #14

darosk wrote in post #9798209 (external link)
What's a good mobo to go for if I decided to go with the i7-860? Is this good?: http://www.newegg.com …aspx?Item=N82E1​6813128412 (external link)

Also, will I need to change anything else on the list if I decide to go with the intel chip?

I was going to go with the i7 860 myself until I realized Microcenter had the i7 920 chip for $199. However my Gigabyte motherboard cost $199 at newegg so that pretty much offset any savings, but it's a socket 1366 board. I bought a GeForce 9500 1GB video card. I don't play games on my PC, so more than good enough to drive my 30" monitor.


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Mar 15, 2010 17:28 |  #15

rogazilla wrote in post #9799549 (external link)
i recently going for upgrade my desktop... out goes the athlon 64 3200 from 8 years ago.

I oped for Athlon 2 X4 630 with gigabyte motherboard with 890gx. USB3, sata 6gb and future support of 6 cores.

http://www.newegg.com …TabStoreType=&s​rchInDesc= (external link)

8 gig DDR3 1600 memory.

My budget is only 500 and that pretty much set me at 450.

From your list and if you are doing photo edit only. Like everyone above have said, probably ditch the graphics card. It does not really help all that much. DDR3 memory might be a more worth while investment.

If you can afford it with your budget more than twice of mine, go for i7. There is no amd CPU can touch it. However, I think the potential for athlon x4 with ddr3 ram + sata 6gb hdd can still be a stellar machine. Which is the direction i am going for. Plus anything will be a significant upgrade over my old athlon. It will no longer be my batch-over-night machine.

I agree with this post. Definitely gotta go with Intel at that price for a machine. Kind of hurts me to say that since I've built so many AMD's over the years, but aside from a build like above there's almost no point in going AMD right now. Only on the extreme budget end does AMD make sense....

I've always been a proponent of buying HD's as you go. Unless you are planning on filling up 2TB of drives overnight (or using RAID), stick with one and put the money you have now towards another part or save it. Partition the drive out so you can back up what you need to and in 6 months get another drive when you need one and you'll save money (either by putting it towards a better part that will increase the performance of your machine instead of having a drive sit with nothing on it, or by earning interest on the money you saved and putting it towards the same part at a cheaper price down the road). Just something to think about and consider, but I would be buying more RAM and/or a better CPU with the money saved on a extra HD and Video Card.....

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