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Anticipation of first real wedding shoot

 
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Mar 14, 2010 10:18 |  #1

Hey guys, just recently a good friend recommended me to a soon-to-be bride as her official wedding photographer. I have taken photos at friends weddings before (back when I had my Rebel XT) but nothing involving actual money changing hands.

So, here's the deal.

Seeing as it's such a huge day for all involved I've started to get really nervous about doing this. I'm pretty confident in my abilities as a photographer and I think I have equipment that is up to the task but that's not doing anything to stop me from psyching myself out about this :). I really do think I've progessed in my ability since the last time I've taken wedding pictures (and I know I've got much more capable gear now!) but I still keep doubting myself.

Hopefully you all can calm me down a bit. How did your first real shoot go? Where you nervous? Did you make any interesting goofs?


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Mar 14, 2010 10:45 |  #2

doubt will only inhibit your ability to shoot! get that out of your head. they put their faith in your abilities for a reason!

i was in a bit of a different spot than you for my first wedding (a few weeks ago) as I was a second. yes, i was nervous, but doubt never weighed in. i reminded myself that the primary chose to have me shoot with him.

as for how it went, i was pretty happy...missed a few things...shot a decent portion of the reception at ISO3200 when i should have been at 1250 or 1600.

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biggest thing is have a lot of fun...relax!


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Mar 15, 2010 07:12 |  #3

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doubt will only inhibit your ability to shoot! get that out of your head. they put their faith in your abilities for a reason!

i was in a bit of a different spot than you for my first wedding (a few weeks ago) as I was a second. yes, i was nervous, but doubt never weighed in. i reminded myself that the primary chose to have me shoot with him.

as for how it went, i was pretty happy...missed a few things...shot a decent portion of the reception at ISO3200 when i should have been at 1250 or 1600.

here are the results: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=837018

biggest thing is have a lot of fun...relax!

I had actually been browsing for first time examples and saw yours before posting this. Great work! If mine come out half as good as yours I'll be happy :p

I am curious though, did you find yourself shooting at max aperture most of the time? If not, when the light wasn't at it's best did you generally compensate with ISO or aperture?


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Mar 15, 2010 11:56 |  #4

Hi Steave - that was quite some time ago....I'm sure I was a bit nervous; there were some good shots and some poor ones. Most of us improve over time with a lot of practice under a lot of different lighting circumstances.

But no - for that first wedding I was not shooting anywhere near wide open. As I recall it was late in the day and cloudy, and most of my shots used flash. Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see a flash in your gear list. This is critical. You HAVE to have one at a wedding....you may not use it, but you never really know how dark things can really get.

Will you be doing an evening reception also?

If so, the highest ISO and fastest lenses in the world won't be able to deal with no light, or ugly, poor quality light. Regarding the latter, one of the worst things I encounter at some receptions are these horrible "down spots" that create pools of light that render terrible shadows across faces. This is where a flesh really shows it's muster. - Stu

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I had actually been browsing for first time examples and saw yours before posting this. Great work! If mine come out half as good as yours I'll be happy :p

I am curious though, did you find yourself shooting at max aperture most of the time? If not, when the light wasn't at it's best did you generally compensate with ISO or aperture?


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Mar 15, 2010 12:21 |  #5

Hey Stu, thanks for the insight! Right now I have 3 sigma 530s with wireless ETTL ability along with stands and umbrellas to go along with them. I will also be doing the reception. The sigmas have a drop down flash diffuser, will that be sufficient or should I pick up an omnibounce?

Would you recommend picking up gels and a holder as well?

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Hi Steave - that was quite some time ago....I'm sure I was a bit nervous; there were some good shots and some poor ones. Most of us improve over time with a lot of practice under a lot of different lighting circumstances.

But no - for that first wedding I was not shooting anywhere near wide open. As I recall it was late in the day and cloudy, and most of my shots used flash. Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see a flash in your gear list. This is critical. You HAVE to have one at a wedding....you may not use it, but you never really know how dark things can really get.

Will you be doing an evening reception also?

If so, the highest ISO and fastest lenses in the world won't be able to deal with no light, or ugly, poor quality light. Regarding the latter, one of the worst things I encounter at some receptions are these horrible "down spots" that create pools of light that render terrible shadows across faces. This is where a flesh really shows it's muster. - Stu


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Mar 15, 2010 12:47 |  #6

Hello Steave - sorry about that.... I didn't recognize the nomenclature on the Sigma's.

Some of the folks here use gels with great success but I have to honestly say I'm a bit lazy about their use. I usually shoot the reception with a single flash, drag the shutter and camera on Manual - and yes, lighting would be more pleasing with two - but bounce most of my light from a 580ex..

Some also use umbrellas, but that could be overkill for general use shooting. Now, if you're doing portraiture and groups that could be a different story.

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Hey Stu, thanks for the insight! Right now I have 3 sigma 530s with wireless ETTL ability along with stands and umbrellas to go along with them. I will also be doing the reception. The sigmas have a drop down flash diffuser, will that be sufficient or should I pick up an omnibounce?

Would you recommend picking up gels and a holder as well?


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Mar 15, 2010 15:37 |  #7

having confidence in your ability is half the battle!!

knowing your gear inside out and having back ups, you will kick ass....and don't forget to enjoy the event and have fun!


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Mar 19, 2010 21:25 |  #8

Thanks guys, I'll probably get ridiculously sick before the wedding from nerves, but I think I can pull it off :). Now I have a few more "gear" related questions...

I definitely would not feel comfortable only taking one body. I don't know what I'd do if my 1d broke down and I couldn't shoot the wedding, it'd be horrible. Looking around on lensrentals.com, the 5D classic doesn't look to be very expensive to rent for a weekend and I've always been very interested in trying it out. I was thinking of keeping my new sigma 24-70 on the 1d, and my 70-2002.8 on the 5d. What would you do? 24-70 on the 5d and 70-200 on the 1d?

I also thought I'd mainly use the 1d for the non-traditional, artsy stuff, and the 5d for formal portraits. Any comments on that? Do you all usually use both bodies at once or keep one in the bag as a backup?


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Mar 19, 2010 22:13 |  #9

I carry both of my 5D's with me simultaneously for a good part of the day.

Typically the one always has the 24-105 mounted, which also gets the 580ex mounted on the Newton bracket. The other gets the 70-200 f/2.8 IS or the 135 f/2 or the 85 f/1.8, minus flash and bracket.


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Mar 19, 2010 23:14 |  #10

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I carry both of my 5D's with me simultaneously for a good part of the day.

Typically the one always has the 24-105 mounted, which also gets the 580ex mounted on the Newton bracket. The other gets the 70-200 f/2.8 IS or the 135 f/2 or the 85 f/1.8, minus flash and bracket.

How do carry your two cameras?


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Mar 19, 2010 23:30 |  #11

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How do carry your two cameras?

I've been reading through a bunch of old posts and I believe I saw Stu say that he used the normal straps with one around the neck and one over his shoulder. I could most definitely be wrong though :)


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Mar 19, 2010 23:33 |  #12

Dont F it up!!!!


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Mar 19, 2010 23:49 |  #13

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Dont F it up!!!!

I joke, I keeed......:)

Really! That will most definitely be on loop in my head the morning before!

BTW, here are the pricings I offered to the bride to fit her budget.

650$ for 12 hours (1 day)

or

65$hr

She's deciding which will be best based on the length of the wedding right now and we're going to have a face to face soon to figure out the rest of the details and what prints she'd like. Both options come with 200 photos (selected specifically by me, I've had too many issues with people asking me for copies of terrible photos) on a CD. I plan to OFFER the bride print services, while pointing out that I can get her very high quality results for a decent price. I think all of this is a fair compromise to my relative lack of experience in weddings. POTNs opinions?


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Mar 20, 2010 07:37 |  #14

Hello again Randy :D. What Steave says is correct. Both of my bodies have straps but the main 5D has a frankenstein contraption that I customized myself.

I never really liked the Canon logo straps - just me - and always like to use something with a bit more grip, foam, width to it. The 5D with the 24-105 has a rubberized Tamrac strap with the quick release connections. This is their model N-17:

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It's similar to the strap I'd used with my Hasselblad which impressed me with it's "grippiness" when hanging from my shoulder. No strap is perfect, but this would would resist sliding more than others I've used.

Also connected to this body, in combination with the N-17 is a small Hakuba wrist strap:

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Througout a typical wedding day I'll just hold this camera at my right side with the wrist strip which gives me added security from "droppage." The latter is not an issue but as the day wears on into hours 8-10 fatigue starts to set in a bit ;).

The other 5D with the monster 70-200 f/2.8 uses the Tamrac N-27 Boomarang strap:

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This thing is wide, foamy and very "cushy", nicely distributing the weight across the back of my neck, or shoulders. It has a bit of a springiness to it so it's like having a built in shock absorber.

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How do carry your two cameras?


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Mar 20, 2010 13:44 |  #15

Also look into the Cotton Carrier, or the Spyder holder (its called something like that)


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