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Jardiniboy
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Mar 15, 2010 20:21 |  #1

I'm interested in getting a 1D MKII or 1D MKIIn

What are the common problems does these cameras usually have and what should I look for?

Should I worry about the high shutter count on these cameras?

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Mar 16, 2010 00:59 |  #2

I dotn have much advice on what kind of problesm these cams can have...
But I can tell you what to look for...
These cams have a shutter rated at +250k clicks!!!!!
The average price for a GOOD/VERY good codition 1DmII is ~$800-850..
One word of advice,go to Adorama and check out thier USED didgital cams.
I bought my 1DmII from them,it was rated as E-.
It looks BRAND new except for some rub marks on the bottom.
It has ~27k clicks on it!!!!!!!! MANY years left in its life...

And I paid $815.


If you are unsure of the cam...always buy from a reputable dealer...just my two cents..
Oh,and you will NOT regret buying one of these if your looking for a FAST camera that delivers crisp,and wonderful images all the time..

Good luck!!!
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Mar 16, 2010 01:27 |  #3

Jardiniboy wrote in post #9803650 (external link)
What are the common problems does these cameras usually have and what should I look for?

one common problem is that folks don't want to part with them... ;)

within reason, shutter count can be ignored and decision to buy one is best based on general condition with worn paint an indication of use, dings and scratches an indication of abuse...


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Mar 16, 2010 07:11 |  #4

The shutter count is unreliable since you can save and load camera settings (cool feature) and the shutter count gets reloaded as well. Doesn't even have to be done on purpose, if you save a sports setup and a portraits setup and reload them it will reset the shutter count every time. But they are rated to last a long time and well built.

Some early ones had shutter failures at 30K so in some ways a super clean one with a really low serial number _might_ actually be more worrying than a beater but you never know. Shoot it until it breaks, get it fixed, repeat ;-)a Love my 1D Mark II!


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Mar 16, 2010 10:23 |  #5

Fyi, the 1D2 shutter is rated to 200,000 actuations. The 1D2n is either 200,000 or 250,000, I don't remember which.


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Mar 16, 2010 10:27 |  #6

Might get more responses in the 1D Mark II thread: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=458150


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Mar 16, 2010 10:37 |  #7

Very little issues with mine. There is always the softer default pics due to a stronger AA filter. Easy fix as the files take well to PP sharpening. Also, dont expect the same ISO performance of today's cameras. I dont go past 800 with mine. It can be done, but be prepared for some noise program I guess. Other than that, I love mine. 8 MP file size could be an issue if you plan on very large prints. I'm about to find out first hand with some shots I took how that turns out.


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Mar 16, 2010 10:40 |  #8

I use mine to 3200 and find the noise is actually very good, easy to remove with DPP but ideally you would use lower, it is really clean from 100-400, 800 isn't bad, 1600 and 3200 need NR. Takes sharpening well. I like the 8.5x11" prints from mine, even with a bit of a crop and I'm sure I could go higher if necessary but try to frame well as you can't expect to crop the middle 1/4 of the frame and blow it up like you can with a zillion megapixels.


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Mar 16, 2010 11:26 |  #9

At around $850, a good condition used 1D mark II is a lot of camera for the price. I would get it over a Rebel or a 50D. For a couple hundred more, the mark IIN has a better LCD screen, picture style, slightly bigger buffer, ability to write RAW/JPEG to different card and couple small refinements here and there. It may worth it to you, but most of them are related to JPEG. If you shoot RAW, which you should, then the differences are very minor. The IIN average at about $1200, you might as well spend a bit more and get a 7D.

The pro and cons of the 1D mark II after using it for two week (coming from a 5D2),
pro:
- Rugged body, feel solid and tough
- Snappy and accurate AF, and many ways to configure it
- Able to AF with an f/8 lens (such as 70-200 f/4 w/2x)
- 1.3x crop factor is nice compromise
- Small RAW file (around 8MB each, compared to 25MB from a 5D2)
- RAW file can be post processed very well
- Built-in grip feels great
cons:
- Archaic user interface, but I get used to it and kinda like it now
- Bad LCD, unusable under bright sun
- Heavy and big
- JPEG output is not great but I don't use it anyway, may have to play with the setting, but they are hard to understand
- 8.2MP, limited cropability
- Noise at ISO 1600 and up, ISO 800 looks good to me

The 5D and 1D2 really complement each other and make a very nice combo.


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Mar 16, 2010 11:56 |  #10

I have found a 1D MKIIn for $50 more than a 1D MKII but only difference is that the N is more heavily used. Should I consider getting the N for $50 more but more heavily used?

I forgot to add that I'm coming from using a 30D.


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Mar 16, 2010 12:07 |  #11

Unless you think it will need a new shutter right away the N for $50 more sounds good. A week after I got my Mark II a IIN sold for $45 less than what I paid... argh, what can you do eh? But mine had a 90 day warranty so I was still pleased.


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Mar 16, 2010 12:09 |  #12

For $50 more, yes go with the N model. Of course it's depend on how "heavily" used it is. If it's really really beat up then different story but normal scratches are fine. High shutter count is a moot point too since the ones with bad shutter usually failed at an early age; mine failed at 10k and sold at 57k without issue.


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Mar 16, 2010 14:45 |  #13

I'm planning on getting a 1D MkIIn from Adorama but what I'm worried about is that it's in "good" condition. Should I be worried at all?

Do you guys know their used items policy?

Thanks.


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Mar 16, 2010 15:43 |  #14

Adorama is usually conservative about their rating. However a G rating is on their lowest scale, so you may get a beat up camera. I suggest to give them a call and ask for the actual picture of the camera.

edit: Also try to send email to Helen Oster from Adorama, she's been really helpful to a lot of people here.


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Mar 16, 2010 23:39 |  #15

ahendarman wrote in post #9809391 (external link)
Adorama is usually conservative about their rating. However a G rating is on their lowest scale, so you may get a beat up camera. I suggest to give them a call and ask for the actual picture of the camera.

edit: Also try to send email to Helen Oster from Adorama, she's been really helpful to a lot of people here.


Thanks for recommending her. I emailed her and I'm surprised she responded back quickly. She's gonna email me the pictures tomorrow. I'm just worried that it might be beat up.


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