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Mar 22, 2010 07:15 |  #1

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I have resized these, one was taken in L jpeg other was RAW. No sharpening I just think they are not focused sharp. Both shot at the door way with AWB, natural light.

Where can I get help with settings please.

Jpeg(Canon EOS 20D,Tv 1/60,Av 5.6)

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Raw(Canon EOS 20D,Tv 1/50,Av 5.6)

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Mar 22, 2010 07:22 |  #2

Which lens were you using and at what focal length, or were you using a tripod? 1/50 and 1/60 are on the slow side for getting sharp images.


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Mar 22, 2010 07:27 |  #3

Just go outside in sun and focus it on something that has sharp edges or something and then compare. 1/50 or 1/60 may be slow depending upon the focal length.


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Mar 22, 2010 07:28 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #4

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Canon 28-80 at 80mm no tripod.
You say that I should use TV and not Av for the sharper image.
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Mar 22, 2010 07:33 |  #5

ukcyberboy wrote in post #9846062 (external link)
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Canon 28-80 at 80mm no tripod.
You say that I should use TV and not Av for the sharper image.
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at 80mm may be 1/60 is slow and that's why pics are not sharp. You can use Av or Tv whichever you like but make the shutter speed faster may be something like 1/400 or so.


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Mar 22, 2010 07:34 as a reply to  @ ukcyberboy's post |  #6

Tv or Av doesn't matter, but a little higher shutter speed could make a difference for you.

The general rule of thumb is that you want your minimum shutter speed to be 1.6 * FL, so at 80mm you would want to be somewhere around 1/125 or faster ideally.


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Mar 22, 2010 07:55 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #7

Hi thanks for quick reply.
I will try to get out tomorrow and follow that.
I want to master this so can take some good shots of my daughters school prom.
Would you bump ISO up?
And am I right to persevere with RAW as I would like to do more post production as well.
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Mar 22, 2010 08:46 |  #8

ukcyberboy wrote in post #9846187 (external link)
Hi thanks for quick reply.
I will try to get out tomorrow and follow that.
I want to master this so can take some good shots of my daughters school prom.
Would you bump ISO up?
And am I right to persevere with RAW as I would like to do more post production as well.
Simon

Yeah, don't be afraid to bump the ISO up if you need more shutter speed (or use a flash). And RAW is definitely the way to go if you're planning on doing much processing.


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Mar 23, 2010 05:39 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #9

Hi
I went out today and took this with faster speeds, I did find I had a custom setting that reverted to Auto.
This was with the Tamron70-300mm at 300mm
Tv( 1/500)
Av( 6.3)
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Would you say it was sharp enough?


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Mar 23, 2010 07:13 as a reply to  @ ukcyberboy's post |  #10

Sorry for extra post just shot this and think it looks great.

Would any body edit it or just leave it?


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Mar 23, 2010 07:18 |  #11

looks more like cam shake than anything.


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Mar 23, 2010 07:27 as a reply to  @ SQMazda6's post |  #12

It was hand held on 300mm, I agree but I like the image.
I should have lent on something but I am a novice.
Thanks for quick reply, just trying to get things right


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Mar 23, 2010 07:50 |  #13

looks very soft. not sure if I can blame the camera, the lens, or the operator :)

We may need more examples, and with different lenses at shutter speeds at least double the focal length to be sure.

then again, how much did you crop the squirrel? did you just lop off the top and bottom, or crop significantly to get your picture?


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Mar 23, 2010 08:15 as a reply to  @ Erik_L's post |  #14

Hi
I only have the two lens it will be a while before I can get more but here is info on original.
Shutter-Priority AE,Tv 1/800,Av 5.6,Partial Metering,ISO 200,@300.0 mm,White Balance Daylight.
I appreciate all the feedback as I get to grips with this.

I would "or the operator" :D

Also I just liked the cheek of this squirrel. :lol:


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Mar 23, 2010 08:23 |  #15

Also remember lenses may not behave best at longest or shortest focal lengths like they may not when wide open. So try some in the middle of the focal range and also stop down a bit e.g. to f8 or something and of course take shots outside in open with plenty of light. You are improving already :)


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