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Quick shoot with little (16) sis.... C&C PLEASE!

 
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Mar 23, 2010 19:35 |  #1

Wellllll
I finally did it, after much begging and pleading by my sister I finally went out and got a few shots of her. We did it in the back yard, with natural lighting, and with my nikon D50 and DX 18-55 (with hood for some)
No cropping or editing, straight from the camera (as I think it always should be!)
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All C&C is welcome. This is my first "shoot" with a human being, so don't be TOO hard on me! LOL



  
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Mar 23, 2010 19:35 |  #2

oh and yes #1 is a little soft.... my autofocus was freaking out in the dark.... so i was using manual part of the time




  
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Mar 23, 2010 21:36 |  #3

soft, underexposed, and the model doesn't look relaxed


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Mar 23, 2010 21:38 |  #4

solutions to fix this!?
she was relaxed.. as far as I know..... I mean.. she really wanted to do this




  
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Mar 23, 2010 23:26 |  #5

What settings are you shooting on?

To be honest, of all of those photos, the last one is the only one that has lighting that is 'almost right'

The focus seems good in 2, where as in the other it doesn't seem quite right.

Photoshop editing can be extremely helpful. Are you shooting in Raw? If I could play with the RAW file of the second image, I could surely 'fix it up' a bit (my opinion of course)

Keep shooting, but maybe try shooting AV? Keep aperture around 5.6 until you're more confident with focusing on (moving) people.

The poses seem a bit gimicy to me, but that's just me being picky!!!




  
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Mar 23, 2010 23:27 |  #6

btw when shooting people, generally it's best to get the eyes in focus. Have a look at the first image, it seems the tips of her hair are in focus, not her eyes...




  
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Mar 24, 2010 00:08 |  #7

Like I said before... the nikon was freaking out with the light... and so I went manual focus for a bit.
As I still feel I am *totally* new to this, I don't shoot raw (I don't know how to convert, and I've read that for the most part RAW isn't much better than jpeg FINE. I haven't tested this myself (obviously) since I don't know how to convert.....




  
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Mar 24, 2010 09:34 |  #8
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jpbimages: we all start somewhere, and getting out there and shooting is the first step. Here's my critiques on these images, hope they help. they're not meant to offend.

1) This photo I believe was taken way to close to the subject. With the 18-55 lens on the wide end, shooting this close, it will cause this wide angle distortion that you see here. (stretching the face to the corners, etc) of course on wide angle lenses, whatever is closer to the subject (nose) will look bigger than it actually is. Be really careful when using anything wider than 40mm or so when shooting really close like this. It an really stretch those corners!

2) this is your best shot. she's kindof hunched over, but other than that she looks relaxed / like she's having a good time. this shot has great potential. scott kelby's photoshop cs4 for digital photographers is a great book :) check it out if you're a photoshop user.

3) i think eye contact w/ this candid shot would have made this shot, her looking down w/ the expression makes it a not so flattering image to me. It's a bit underexposed. framing/composition are ok.

4) way to close to the model on this one again. notice how her nose has enlarged and is spread out further than normal? that's the wide angle again.

overall, you did well for a first shoot I just think you need to keep shooting, listen to all the great people on here, and reshoot reshoot reshoot! I would recommend really watching your backgrounds. The difference between a snapshot you'd throw on facebook and a 16x24 you'd pay to put on your wall is composition, background, proper exposure, and lighting. master those, and there's nothing you can't shoot :)

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Mar 24, 2010 09:43 |  #9

*Edit*-Posted this at the same time as the critique above ^^ and the advice is similar

The good news is that your sister is asking for photos so taking more shouldn't be a problem for you and it's great that you are asking for critiques which means you want to get better.
#1 Unless you're shooting flowers or bugs don't get so close. The super close shots become distorted and aren't very flattering. The two really close ones looks like she is looking through the peep hole of a door.
#2 Pay close attention to your background. The fences are distracting and take the attention away from your subject.
#3 Posing-Try not to have your subjects so "square" to the camera and shoot at different angles. It appears that all of the shots are looking down at your sister
#4 Lighting-An off camera flash would really help here. There isn't any pop to the images meaning the lighting is flat and blends too much with the background. If you don't have one try shooting at different times of the day and don't be afraid to improvise. A large white piece of poster board does wonders.

Good luck and be sure to show us your next shoot.


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Mar 24, 2010 11:44 |  #10

Thanks guys, it helps when I know whats 'wrong' in EACH of the photo's not underexposed.
I have gotten lots of thumbs ups on "facebook" on #1 and #4 (both her fevorites). It bugs me they turned out soft.
Like I said before, I don't have photoshop..... nor do I care to at the moment... I feel greatly that photoshop is not photography... its cheating LOL




  
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Mar 24, 2010 12:02 |  #11

jpbimages wrote in post #9859140 (external link)
Like I said before... the nikon was freaking out with the light... and so I went manual focus for a bit.
As I still feel I am *totally* new to this, I don't shoot raw (I don't know how to convert, and I've read that for the most part RAW isn't much better than jpeg FINE. I haven't tested this myself (obviously) since I don't know how to convert.....

no offense intended, but if you see that your pictures are poorly focused, underexposed, and poorly composed, why would you post them for critique?

Jpeg should be fine. That's not the problem.

I also imagine that a 'thumbs up' on facebook is not the same as asking for comments on a photography forum. We don't know her, the photos have no 'hey your sis looks great' value to us. We comment on composition, technical aspects, emotion conveyed, etc.

And read what Stan wrote again. Good advice there...


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Mar 24, 2010 12:13 |  #12

elader- all the things stan mentioned, I had a conflict with... the background was damn near impossible to get.
I know the focus was poor in one, but I thought the composition was good in some.... maybe thats unexperienced me. I honestly thought that they were overexposed.....




  
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jpbimages wrote in post #9861727 (external link)
Thanks guys, it helps when I know whats 'wrong' in EACH of the photo's not underexposed.
I have gotten lots of thumbs ups on "facebook" on #1 and #4 (both her fevorites). It bugs me they turned out soft.
Like I said before, I don't have photoshop..... nor do I care to at the moment... I feel greatly that photoshop is not photography... its cheating LOL

hah...cheating..it's a tool, a lens / camera body is a tool. Technology changes, and those that don't change with it are left in the dust...Whether it be darkroom or photoshop. Good luck w/ your non-photoshop digital camera future :)

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elader- all the things stan mentioned, I had a conflict with... the background was damn near impossible to get.
I know the focus was poor in one, but I thought the composition was good in some.... maybe thats unexperienced me. I honestly thought that they were overexposed.....

you have a good start on composition, but the background could easily be avoided. Have her lower, and fill her completely w/ a background of grass by shooting higher. no more fence in the background. You have the groundwork to start from on making some good images. keep it up


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Mar 24, 2010 15:58 as a reply to  @ twistedinsight's post |  #14

Hi, looking at your photos your last photo the exposure is good.

Your first photo slightly over exposed with the 2nd and 3rd under exposed.

If on your monitor they all looks bright it's maybe your monitor is not calibrated.

The focus on the 2nd and 3rd photo looks good. The 1st and last are out of focus.


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Mar 24, 2010 19:25 |  #15

jpbimages wrote in post #9861727 (external link)
Thanks guys, it helps when I know whats 'wrong' in EACH of the photo's not underexposed.
I have gotten lots of thumbs ups on "facebook" on #1 and #4 (both her fevorites). It bugs me they turned out soft.
Like I said before, I don't have photoshop..... nor do I care to at the moment... I feel greatly that photoshop is not photography... its cheating LOL

I completely and totally disagree with that. Find me one professional, published photographer who uses no post process...


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