-= T2i / 550D users UNITE! (1) =-

I've got this commercial in my head (Made up in my mind)......

Jon's item didn't sell on Ebay. Do you see why? His outline was good. His description was good, but the pictures just turned off potential buyers. With a simple phone call, XXXX can take top quality pictures that will help you sell that item for Top dollar! See the difference? ( show crappy picture and then one done by XXXX).

Anyhow, that's just how my mind works... always looking at angles.

LuFaiNe wrote in post #11638525
Yes speaking of the tripod, which model is that? I need to be able to get a worm's eye view sometimes and that looks like it would do it. You should be proud of your gear and list it in your signature. Give up the info Sean

I"ve got the Manfrotto 190xprob with 496RC2 head

marubozo wrote in post #11640797
I finally remembered to pick up a piece of plexiglass while I was out today. The reflection is killer when you don't want a floating look.

Nice shot Maru! However, your plexiglass seems to have a little blue tint. Compare the red from the apple between the red from the reflected apple. It's minimal, but there is some. It could be more important if you were shooting white.

Have a try at using glass to get your reflection. You surely have an old table with a glass top you could use.

Report here, I would like to see the difference (in the reflection, the amount it reflects, blue tint etc..)

I noticed that too, but not until a good hour or so after taking it and revisiting it. I'm wondering if it was due to the material itself, or the fact that the edge of the plastic was exposed to the bright light coming in from the window and then reflecting it back as a cool light compared to the other lighting.

I guess I have more testing to do. And I may have a lot of junk lying around, but sadly, no glass. I did have an old picture frame with glass in it in the basement, but I broke that a few months ago.

Just got asked by a friend to be a second shooter at his upcoming May wedding. He seems to really like my latest images, but I'm thinking about turning it down. Can't really decided, and Even though I wouldn't be the primary photographer, I would hate to end up not being able to deliver quality shots. What are your thoughts on the matter? What would you do?

It depends of how and what your friend thinks about a second shooter.

A: He needs to deliver as much as the first shooter, he needs to get those shots the first shooter wasn't able to take for whatever reason. He needs to bring another perspective into a picture, situation. Should use his creativity a lot. He's paid (or not) to get awesome results.

B: The second shooter is the backup plan. If I (the first shooter) fail, I can only wish for the second shooter to get the shot. But as I never fail, the second shooter will be almost no use. I don't rely on his shot for the wedding, mines are already perfect. If I'm happy with one or two of his shot, it's enough and I'll be happy. He's here for experience and I'm here to get paid and deliver. Not him.


So my answer would be if your friend is

Friend A : No. Unless you know you can deliver a wedding succefully. Think like there was no first shooter. You are the first shooter. Would you trust yourself?

Friend B : Go for it. He knows you may no be the best and is looking more for a backup plan. You'll gain experience a lot. Be sure he doesn't count on you to get the best shot of the wedding. Have fun!

Wolfy, I just turned down an exact same job! There's something about a 'no chance to get it back' that frightens me! If I shoot a smiling girl and I didn't nail the picture, I can ask for another smile... at a wedding, I cannot ask for another 'first kiss'.

The thing is, we are probably better than the bold and fearless photographers that will end up covering the events, but our self awareness prevents us from actually being confident and THAT shows in the pictures which end up timid and flat.

Hard to say... I regret my decision, but I know I am better with that decision than screwing up somebody's precious moments.

Rafa.

wolfy317 wrote in post #11642364
Just got asked by a friend to be a second shooter at his upcoming May wedding. He seems to really like my latest images, but I'm thinking about turning it down. Can't really decided, and Even though I wouldn't be the primary photographer, I would hate to end up not being able to deliver quality shots. What are your thoughts on the matter? What would you do?

just go for it and enjoy yourself, it will be good experience and you have got plenty of time to look on the interweb for advice etc. Afterall the main photog has the most responsablility

Rivest wrote in post #11642415
It depends of how and what your friend thinks about a second shooter.

A: He needs to deliver as much as the first shooter, he needs to get those shots the first shooter wasn't able to take for whatever reason. He needs to bring another perspective into a picture, situation. Should use his creativity a lot. He's paid (or not) to get awesome results.

B: The second shooter is the backup plan. If I (the first shooter) fail, I can only wish for the second shooter to get the shot. But as I never fail, the second shooter will be almost no use. I don't rely on his shot for the wedding, mines are already perfect. If I'm happy with one or two of his shot, it's enough and I'll be happy. He's here for experience and I'm here to get paid and deliver. Not him.


So my answer would be if your friend is

Friend A : No. Unless you know you can deliver a wedding succefully. Think like there was no first shooter. You are the first shooter. Would you trust yourself?

Friend B : Go for it. He knows you may no be the best and is looking more for a backup plan. You'll gain experience a lot. Be sure he doesn't count on you to get the best shot of the wedding. Have fun!

Good points. I really need more information than I have, but, at the offset, I am tempted to decline simply because I would be embarrassed if I were unable to deliver what they are expecting. This would be a free service to them, as i really would appreciate the experience and knowledge gained from the principal shooter (assuming the main photographer is inclined to share any knowledge whatsoever).

RafaPolit wrote in post #11642423
Wolfy, I just turned down an exact same job! There's something about a 'no chance to get it back' that frightens me! If I shoot a smiling girl and I didn't nail the picture, I can ask for another smile... at a wedding, I cannot ask for another 'first kiss'.

The thing is, we are probably better than the bold and fearless photographers that will end up covering the events, but our self awareness prevents us from actually being confident and THAT shows in the pictures which end up timid and flat.

Hard to say... I regret my decision, but I know I am better with that decision than screwing up somebody's precious moments.

Rafa.

That's exactly why I'm considering turning it down. BUT, on the otherhand, if I were able to offer other perspectives, and catch things that the first shooter was unable to due to being focused on the main parties, then it just might be worth it. Of course, I have to consider equipment and venue as well. If it's indoors, then I really don't have the lenses for it, so I'd probably have to consider renting a couple of lenses. I also have no flash, nor do I know how to shoot with one as of yet. Might even consider going to a dual body shoot, so I can minimize lens changes..... No time like the present to learn though right!?

Decisions decisions.....

I may be the pessimistic here but, IMHO, if you don't have a Flash, be it indoor or outdoor, you shouldn't do it! Flash is, again IMHO, indispensable for indoor so you don't end up with ghosts and outdoor so you don't end up with raccoons!

I think you are better off with a semi-decent lens and a good flash than with a great lens without flash for these type of scenarios.

As always, I'd be glad to be proven wrong if someone has opposed experiences.

Rafa.

Wolfy, as you don't have the required equipement, I would turn it down. Learning how to properly use a flash is not simply to turn it on and shoot away on ETTL. It's way more complicated than that.

You also said you do not have the required lens. Again, you could work your way out by renting them but you will still not be used to them, how they behave in poor light condition etc.

For those above reasons, I would turn it down. If you both had the skills (to use a flash properly and effectively, to get that perfect shot in low light perfectly focused, etc..) and the required equipment it would be different.

If it wasn't for a wedding, simply seniors or outdoor portrait it would be way different. But a wedding is a couple's best day of their life. Your not in the same game.

Not to change the subject or anything, but just wanted to update Rivest on that blueish apple reflection. I was reading through my latest book called Light: Science and Magic, and just happened to come across a segment that talked about polarized reflections. According to the book, it said daylight reflecting off of glass, plastic, and some other materials will usually be polarized and give off a cooler color reflection than the subject itself.

Since that original shot was by using daylight I did a set up a little bit ago using my other light and sure enough, the reflection pretty much exactly matched the color temp of the original subject perfectly and no more blue tint!

Granted, I couldn't replicate that original lighting exactly, but I got pretty close.

I figured since this was my old stomping ground, and a few of you asked about it, I'd throw it up here too. Apparently selling my T2i wasn't enough to pay all my bills... so here's my flash :\

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=985847

EDIT: For those of you who will probably ask me again, no my 70-200 is not for sale....... yet.

^^At this price, you'll sell it in an hour