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Mar 12, 2011 22:47 |  #9976

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...fast frame rate would barely help. A bursting bubble happens so fast, I don't think 8FPS would cut it...

I agree that it won't guarantee that you get them while bursting, but several fast bursts I think will have a better chance of getting one of them bursting that single shot after single shot... and remember there are cameras like the 1D mIV that can do 10fps!

Also, another option would be to actually film them at 720p at 60fps with very fast shutter speeds, one could extract the burst out of a single frame of 1MP. It could work! :)

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Mar 12, 2011 22:49 |  #9977

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Welcome BlueCadet to the T2i section!!! You can always go into the For Sell forum here to look for a used T2i which would prevent the last sentence of your post! :) At any rate, you'll love the camera! Looking forward to you sharing your pictures here.

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I'm practically stealing it. :D

Thanks by the way! :cool:


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Mar 12, 2011 22:53 as a reply to  @ BlueCadet3's post |  #9978

Wow this thread has really generated some interest with nearly 10,000 posts. The 550D must be one of those most popular cameras in the fleet.... :cool: :D


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Mar 12, 2011 22:55 |  #9979

RafaPolit wrote in post #12009653 (external link)
I agree that it won't guarantee that you get them while bursting, but several fast bursts I think will have a better chance of getting one of them bursting that single shot after single shot... and remember there are cameras like the 1D mIV that can do 10fps!

Also, another option would be to actually film them at 720p at 60fps with very fast shutter speeds, one could extract the burst out of a single frame of 1MP. It could work! :)

Rafa.

The T2i has like 3.7FPS.

I read 8fps and 10fps for the very high end model? Wow, that is fast.

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Mar 12, 2011 22:55 |  #9980

RafaPolit wrote in post #12009653 (external link)
I agree that it won't guarantee that you get them while bursting, but several fast bursts I think will have a better chance of getting one of them bursting that single shot after single shot... and remember there are cameras like the 1D mIV that can do 10fps!

Also, another option would be to actually film them at 720p at 60fps with very fast shutter speeds, one could extract the burst out of a single frame of 1MP. It could work! :)

Rafa.

Rafa, sure a 1DmkIV could do it, but I bet there's any 1DMkIV users in here reading this ;)

If you have ever tried water drops, you would see that you get a whole lot more keeper at one single shot almost perfectly timed than using burst mode and praying. I've done a lot of those and can talk with experience :p

Actually, I did some milk and blueberry dropping in two days ago and again, single shot was getting way more keeper. But maybe some people could have a hard time hitting the shutter button as soon as the drop/blueberry hits the milk so spray and pray could work better for them. A bit like panning, some prefer single shots while others spray and pray...

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Mar 12, 2011 23:06 |  #9981

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Wow this thread has really generated some interest with nearly 10,000 posts. The 550D must be one of those most popular cameras in the fleet.... :cool: :D

Well, price vs. quality it is, IMHO, as good as it gets! With the T2i you relinquish Full HD video, and with the other models you are going for more expensive options. I believe the T2i is the sweet spot for enthusiast at this point.

Also, I noted a while back that we have a had a new batch of T2i users just recently. I think that, with the announcement of the T3i, people are jumping on the wagon of the T2i hoping to get better deals, which are certainly appearing. Since image quality on the upper models up to the 7D is identical, it remains a very appealing option!

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Mar 12, 2011 23:10 |  #9982

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...you get a whole lot more keeper at one single shot almost perfectly timed than using burst mode and praying...

Rivest, I'm sure this is the case. It remains really impressive to time a shot at that particular moment and have many of them to show for it.

I particularly love those that have half a bubble and half disintegrating soap. Nice link, and something interesting to try one day. I assume lots of sunlight is required to keep ultra-high shutter speeds.

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Mar 12, 2011 23:11 |  #9983

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Beautiful image Maru, as usual. This one is more grim, which I like a lot! Its a more cloudy sky with really dark clouds but the sunset is warm and perfectly shone behind the trees.

Maru, there was some questions about the 70-200 on the Official Thread and I was unsure, do you have the 2.8, the 2.8IS or the 2.8IS mII? The fellows were asking about the use of the mII and I doubted about who here has it. Thanks,

Rafa.

Thanks. I just have the 2.8 non-IS.


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Mar 12, 2011 23:12 |  #9984

RafaPolit wrote in post #12009753 (external link)
Rivest, I'm sure this is the case. It remains really impressive to time a shot at that particular moment and have many of them to show for it.

I particularly love those that have half a bubble and half disintegrating soap. Nice link, and something interesting to try one day. I assume lots of sunlight is required to keep ultra-high shutter speeds.

Rafa.

This, or a simple speedlight inside :p

But you lose that nice green/outdoor background.


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Mar 12, 2011 23:20 as a reply to  @ RafaPolit's post |  #9985

I saw the photo of the cocker spaniel at the top of the stairs and couldn't help posting mine.

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Mar 12, 2011 23:27 |  #9986

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I saw the photo of the cocker spaniel at the top of the stairs and couldn't help posting mine.

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hahaha nice.. love it


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Mar 12, 2011 23:33 |  #9987

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Four people in the shot will require you to be around 10 to 12 feet away (3 to 3.5 meters) and that they be hugging really close! 6 people is a bit much I'm afraid... that will require an unusually big living room.

Do you have any lens? If you have the kit lens, you can set it to the maximum focal length (55mm) to get an idea what you will face. I have used the 50mm indoors and it is good for 1 or 2 face shots, groups of people is NOT what that focal length is good for.

I you are looking for those shots more, I would strongly suggest you take a look at the 28mm f1.8 which share most of the qualities of the 50mm f1.4 while being a lens with a field of view equivalent to the standard 50mm in 35mm cameras. Marubozo here has proven time and again that lens's use on indoor photography.

Wolfy has demonstrated the 50mm f1.4 in outdoor objects to be an incredible lens as well.

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wow.. i will go and check out the 28mm f1.8 for the lens.. i mor einto group picture since i always go out with my friend and tamron the weakness is if group the lens cant focus to all face.. wondering why if i took the 8people lets say, there is sometimes 1-2faces blur with no focus and i tak ein AV Mode...

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Mar 12, 2011 23:39 |  #9988

Haitunzz, I'm not sure I explained myself correctly... the problem with the number of people in the picture is that you will need to be too far away to capture 8 different guys on the same shot. Outdoors, you just walk 3 paces and you are good to go... indoors this is a problem.

The issue with any lens indoors is that you are forced to use big apertures (lower f numbers) to have decent shutter speeds. At f1.4, only a fraction of the image is in sharp focus. Take a look at David's soap bubbles first image: the bubbles are perfectly sharp, the gun is mildly sharp and his daughter is completely out of focus!!

With many people in the frame, you will have this problem: only a very thin line will have perfect focus, if the people are not facing you directly, then you have a problem. Perhaps for those type of pictures you are better of with the lens you already have and a flash? Which Tamron do you use?

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Mar 13, 2011 00:01 |  #9989

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wow.. i will go and check out the 28mm f1.8 for the lens.. i mor einto group picture since i always go out with my friend and tamron the weakness is if group the lens cant focus to all face.. wondering why if i took the 8people lets say, there is sometimes 1-2faces blur with no focus and i tak ein AV Mode...

thx rafa.. appreciate ur guidance alot!:)

Hait, at 28mm, you will have a hard time fitting 8 people into the frame. Specially inside. You need to go wider. However, there is not a lot of primes wider than 28. Unless you have a big budget. For this reasons, I'd recommend you a F2.8 zoom. It might be a stop or two slower, but will fit everyone. Also, when fitting a group of people, you usually want at least F4, to get everyone's face in focus.

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Mar 13, 2011 00:14 |  #9990

As this thread is reaching the 10,000 posts, it is time to close it and give you a new, uncluttered home to continue with this topic.

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