The real problem with the 7D!

5Dmaniac wrote in post #9885926
I asked a very similar question a couple of weeks ago:

https://photography-on-the.net …40677&highlight​=7D+issues

The majority felt that the 7D is not all that different than any other Canon xxD release, which I disagree with - just look at the dozens of threads here about supposed "7D issues".

Yes I agree.
Certain characteristics of the 7D are closer (in my opinion) to my 5D II than my previous 2 crop bodies

The 7D box should also have a disclaimer that reads: "This 7D could exhibit REAL focusing issues. DO NOT spend 2 months asking questions at POTN and listening to people who don't own a 7D say it's your fault. Send it back to Canon Service for repair IMMEDIATELY!"

dave

Many of the Pro naturescapes.net photographers that have been using the 7D now for several months and also shoot the Mark 1D models (excluding Mark IV) claim its got the best AF'ing of all crop Canon cameras, including the 1.3x sensors ones.

snyderman wrote in post #9886044
The 7D box should also have a disclaimer that reads: "This 7D could exhibit REAL focusing issues. DO NOT spend 2 months asking questions at POTN and listening to people who don't own a 7D say it's your fault. Send it back to Canon Service for repair IMMEDIATELY!"

Well if it was that obvious that your camera was the problem, why didn't you do just that? Indeed, why did you post at all?

You can't have it both ways: you clearly didn't know there was a camera fault until you ruled yourself out as the problem, which is the point here.

And the fact remains that most problems are not with the camera.

Boy....I near spit coffee on my laptop when I read that.

As one of those people who would be better off on days, to use the green box, I agree 100% with what Cookie99 posted.

I consider it a learning curve which is taking a long while to complete....but I don't blame the camera. The fact is, I love the camera. It just has a lot of bells and whistles.

It's not just cameras though. I'd like to make a video at a shooting range sometime.

The sights are off.
I have a floating zero.
The stock needs bedding
Too much overtravel
lock time is too long
Stock doesn't fit


Well said Cookie99

cookie99 wrote in post #9885786
Is that it is far to advanced for the mug photographer.

Canon should have put a warning on the box, "Idiots should start with a POINT and SHOOT and hopefully return to photography when they have an understanding of the basics of it.

I use 2 1D MKIIIs, 2 IDsMKIIIs, 2 5D MKIIs, 1 ID MKIV, and 2 7Ds.

Value for money and quality for $ the 7D wins hands down BUT it requires that you have an IQ above 120 to use it well and it requires that you LEARN to use it well and it does not suffer fools gladly.

If you feel that you can't put the effort into learning to use this camera well DON'T BUY IT.

Having used all those expensive cameras...you must be the best photographer out there.

beetcal wrote in post #9885843
People learn by asking questions and making mistakes, nobody here was born with a camera in hand and just because someone is starting out does not make them an idiot!!!!

In fact, it makes the person who knows everything more of an idiot to look so far down onto people wanting to learn.

The 7D is my first DSLR - my last SLR was a Nikkormat FT. Prior to picking up the 7D, I hadn't used an SLR in about 15 years. Last declaration: I'm a software engineer and general technology lover.

All I can say is that I think the 7D is bad to the ass. From a technical standpoint it's a brilliant piece of work. Everytime I pick it up I'm learning both photography and the technology, so that's a huge plus to me. I love the technical details.

That said, it took me about a week before I started getting consistently reasonable shots with the camera, without the green box. I've played with all of the AF modes and haven't once thought that the camera was responsible for any problems I've had. I know where the weak link in the photographic chain is on this fence...

I read the other thread where the camera body was being blamed, and all I can say is that I don't have enough experience to know when to blame the camera (yet), so far I've found that yes, the 7D is a piece of work and if you don't set it up right, the guy next to you with a cardboard camera will be showing you up.

7D = winner in my book

sounds like the op has a people issue and I am sorry for you.. I may have missed something but it really makes me sad for people when I read things like this. I have a LOT of opinions but I realize that they are my own and it is not needed for me to post them on the internet in a manner that makes me look like you do right now in my eyes .


Good luck with your 7d edit.... 2 7ds!!!!

Hogloff wrote in post #9886457
In fact, it makes the person who knows everything more of an idiot to look so far down onto people wanting to learn.

Exactly. Post a legitimate question for actual help or 'how-to' assistance using the 7D. You'll likely see tumbleweeds blowing through the post and crickets chirping.

It's because most don't OWN or USE a 7D and otherwise don't have a clue!

dave

cookie99 wrote in post #9885786
Is that it is far to advanced for the mug photographer.

Canon should have put a warning on the box, "Idiots should start with a POINT and SHOOT and hopefully return to photography when they have an understanding of the basics of it.

I use 2 1D MKIIIs, 2 IDsMKIIIs, 2 5D MKIIs, 1 ID MKIV, and 2 7Ds.

.

Is this really neccessary?

I Swiitched from Nikon to Canon (bought a 7D) awhile back, then came here to learn from others. I have learned a lot, but today I learned some Canon users have big egos..

I guess I am "an idiot" because I am still learning

Zela M wrote in post #9886884
Swiitched from Nikon to Canon awhile back, then came here to learn from others. I have learned a lot, but today I learned some Canon users have big egos..

Wouldn't that be true of any <insert manufacturer> users?

I'm certainly not saying OP has one (or doesn't), but egos are everywhere, not just on a photography forum.

This is a nonsense post. If you understand the relationship between light, shutter speed and aperture this camera is no more of a problem than any other. In fact given that it has a "Green Box" unlike the 1 series cameras it can even be a point and shoot for those that want it to be.

I kinda agree, almost all the 'my 7d won't focus sharp' threads end in someone pointing out a user error along the line.
I wouldn't say your dumb for not getting great pictures right away, people just need to be more patient and try and figure out problems themselves before bashing the equipment.
Often the problem is quite obvious if you just took the time to figure out why, like people moaning that their pictures of fast-moving racing cars aren't sharp when they used a shutter speed of 1/60th

(BTW I think he listed those bodies to back up his opinion on how he feels the 7D is good value)

snyderman wrote in post #9886772
Post a legitimate question for actual help or 'how-to' assistance using the 7D. You'll likely see tumbleweeds blowing through the post and crickets chirping.

That's completely untrue and you know it - it's when posts are light on detail, devoid of information about what the user has actually done to isolate the problem, and heavy on whining and accusations that everybody is to blame but them, that they're likely to attract little help.

And I don't see why that should be a surprise...