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Softbox vs. Octobox vs. Beauty Dish

 
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Apr 02, 2010 12:47 as a reply to  @ post 9919909 |  #16

Also learn the art of feathering ;) It can be a very useful tool when only using a key light and a reflector for fill.




  
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Apr 02, 2010 19:00 |  #18

LeftCoastLefty wrote in post #9922291 (external link)
I'm new around these parts, but my umbrella-like PCB octabox expands in a jiffy and is very well built. I don't understand why anyone would want to take the poles out of a softbox. :confused: The Bowens Quick Ring referenced in the other link looks like a good fix for an otherwise lousy design. Seeing as the OP had ABs to start with, buying more PCB seems like a much better and easier solution. That's my two cents...

If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.

Not remove poles from a softbox...remove poles from the speedring to collapse it for transport or storage! (I don't have a van to put an assembled large softbox into it to drive somewhere! :D)

Didn't know that Bowens made a Quick Ring. Will investigate. I know that Chimera now also has a ring that permits easy collapse of a softbox (they didn't when I bought my softboxes), but at $115 each, it would be a considerable investment (small fortune) to have one for each of the multiple softboxes which I employ for portraiture or product shots...main, fill, hairlight, background lights, etc.

As for PCB softbox/Octabox, I have never owned one, but I doubt that it is as even in illumination across the front of the softbox as my Chimeras! You do get what you pay for.


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Apr 02, 2010 20:42 |  #19

Picked up my softbox today.. Look really good. It is a little tricky to put it together, but I think I'd get use to it! Waiting for my B800 now.. :)


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Apr 02, 2010 20:45 |  #20

LeftCoastLefty wrote in post #9922291 (external link)
I'm new around these parts, but my umbrella-like PCB octabox expands in a jiffy and is very well built. I don't understand why anyone would want to take the poles out of a softbox. :confused: The Bowens Quick Ring referenced in the other link looks like a good fix for an otherwise lousy design. Seeing as the OP had ABs to start with, buying more PCB seems like a much better and easier solution. That's my two cents...

If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.

The quality of light is different. Proper tool for the job. A softbox has a different quality of light than an octobox has.




  
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Apr 02, 2010 23:37 |  #21

The quality of light is different. Proper tool for the job. A softbox has a different quality of light than an octobox has.

Could you explain that please ? In my mind, the difference is just shape....what am I missing in my understanding of it ? Thanks.


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Apr 03, 2010 11:00 |  #23

LeftCoastLefty wrote in post #9923777 (external link)
Sorry, I was using the terms octabox and softbox interchangeably. You have to admit that they are the same basic technology. I have a PCB "stripbox" and an octabox. They both open like an umbrella, work great, and when collapsed fit in a bag that is about 9" in diameter and about 24" long. That's small enough for me.

I'm not sure if this answered his question..? :confused:


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Apr 06, 2011 10:43 |  #24

Wilt wrote in post #9922309 (external link)
As for PCB softbox/Octabox, I have never owned one, but I doubt that it is as even in illumination across the front of the softbox as my Chimeras! You do get what you pay for.


My medium(24x36) PCB softboxes have absolutely the same type of light pattern as a friends chimera of equivalent size, in fact during a recent shoot he commented on how surprised he was by not only the quality of light, but also the build.

It never ceases to amaze me in the amount of ignorance there is when it comes to product knowledge vs price. Paying more doesn't always guarantee you get more, especially when it comes to things as fundamental as light modifiers.


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Apr 06, 2011 10:54 as a reply to  @ boogaloo's post |  #25

How are you determining "the same type of light pattern" and what exactly do you mean by that?


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Apr 06, 2011 10:57 |  #26

Keep talking people...the more you talk the more I learn!!!

Thank you!


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Apr 06, 2011 11:04 |  #27

airfrogusmc wrote in post #9920442 (external link)
Also learn the art of feathering ;) It can be a very useful tool when only using a key light and a reflector for fill.

+1. Amen to that, Allen.

I'm currently working on some sample shots to demonstrate exactly what you're describing, using an assortment of modifiers of different shape and size and a reflector.


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Apr 06, 2011 11:05 |  #28

agree....keep it coming...


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Apr 06, 2011 11:06 |  #29

TMR Design wrote in post #12169713 (external link)
+1. Amen to that, Allen.

I'm currently working on some sample shots to demonstrate exactly what you're describing, using an assortment of modifiers of different shape and size and a reflector.

...waiting for that Rob, thanx!


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Apr 06, 2011 11:25 |  #30

TMR Design wrote in post #12169713 (external link)
+1. Amen to that, Allen.

I'm currently working on some sample shots to demonstrate exactly what you're describing, using an assortment of modifiers of different shape and size and a reflector.

Awesome, I will be looking forward to this post!


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