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sdipirro
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Mar 30, 2010 09:40 |  #1

A friend had asked me if she could wear a baseball cap for some studio portrait shots. I decided to try some experiments with my favorite mannequin model first, using a single boomed strobe/beauty dish and the triflector. I was curious if I could effectively remove shadows from under the visor of the hat by just using the 3 reflector panels of the triflector and without introducing a fill light. I couldn't seem to do it. The visor is blocking the light from above. The reflectors are bouncing light up to the eyes but also creating a shadow from the nose at the same time. I tried a number of different reflector positions, and I'm wondering if there's anything else I could have tried (other than a fill light). Thanks.


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Mar 30, 2010 10:04 |  #2

Hat and beauty lighting, I don't think it will work.

Even with regular lighting and hats you want to move the main lower and also tilt the hat/head a bit so more light can get to the eyes. I would advise to do the shots without the hat if using over head beauty dish.

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Mar 30, 2010 10:19 |  #3

Yeah, the question just sparked my curiosity and then the experiment. Your technique is probably the only reasonable way to get good results. I even thought about putting reflective material on the underside of the visor!


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Mar 30, 2010 10:25 |  #4

sdipirro wrote in post #9899709 (external link)
Yeah, the question just sparked my curiosity and then the experiment. Your technique is probably the only reasonable way to get good results. I even thought about putting reflective material on the underside of the visor!

Interesting idea. I think I am going to try putting reflectors on the underside of the visor, to try and cancel the nose shadow created from the light below.

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