●●♥♥♥The departure of Angels♥♥♥●●Contents May Be Disturbing to Some

Thank you Sue for expressing in words my feelings much better than I myself could do. My heart crys for children who die, all around the world, regardless of the reasons they die. But. . .

stax wrote in post #9929011
Embalming requires the mouth to be glued shut. It's not real.

I don't think the picture was taken in Oakland.


Its a very moving photo, mathogre, I think you sum it up very well.

This is what photography is all about. It tells a story, it's caused a strong emotional reaction and, if the child really has passed, its a final memory.

stax wrote in post #9929011
Embalming requires the mouth to be glued shut. It's not real.

Embalming is not something that happens in all parts of the world. Many religions actually forbid it.

neil_r wrote in post #9929258
Embalming is not something that happens in all parts of the world. Many religions actually forbid it.

Tell me about the cultures that bury their kids in stocking caps and messy hair, with ski parkas unzipped and arms akimbo. Also that is not the skin of the dead. It is the skin of a sleeping child.

stax wrote in post #9929269
Tell me about the cultures that bury their kids in stocking caps and messy hair, with ski parkas unzipped and arms akimbo. Also that is not the skin of the dead. It is the skin of a sleeping child.

I'm inclined to agree with you here. I've seen dead children, and I've seen middle eastern funerals, and this doens't look like a photo of either.
Doesn't mean its not though


However, on second glance, its possible that the title is a reference to the dreams of children, and this child could easily represent an angel sleeping as well.

It is interesting how we come to conclusions about things though, and it's still a really good photo.

stax wrote in post #9929269
Tell me about the cultures that bury their kids in stocking caps and messy hair, with ski parkas unzipped and arms akimbo. Also that is not the skin of the dead. It is the skin of a sleeping child.

I see where you are coming from, and I have no idea if this child is sleeping or deceased.

I have seen many (too many) funerals and funeral processions in India and Africa to be surprised at the clothes that people are buried or cremated in.

Moderators of this forum:

Please censor this post until the OP explains it. I am very sick that this image was show without more warning. Something like 'possible dead child photo, view at your own discretion'.

No props at all to the person who posted this without explaination. This image makes me ill, in the worst way.

There will be no censoring of this photo, however a warning has been added to the title.

Please, look at the photo. What do you see? What do you really see?

I see a young child in repose in a bed of roses. The child is dressed in several layers including a parka and a knit cap. The child's eyes are closed and the mouth relaxed and slightly open.

While you may make note of other details, that is all that we know. Whether the child is dead or alive is pure conjecture, What did the artist want us to see. to believe? That this is a deceased child and for us to feel the deep emotional loss such a mental image would evoke. Or are we to simply see the soft angelic beauty of a sleeping child?

What I am trying to say is the we each filter this photo through the paradigms of our individual experiences. Let there be room for all of us.

Good evening
Returned to you once again
I read all the replies, most of them expressed grief among members

But the child was in bed sleeping Yes

Skip Souza wrote in post #9931537
There will be no censoring of this photo, however a warning has been added to the title.

Please, look at the photo. What do you see? What do you really see?

I see a young child in repose in a bed of roses. The child is dressed in several layers including a parka and a knit cap. The child's eyes are closed and the mouth relaxed and slightly open.

While you may make note of other details, that is all that we know. Whether the child is dead or alive is pure conjecture, What did the artist want us to see. to believe? That this is a deceased child and for us to feel the deep emotional loss such a mental image would evoke. Or are we to simply see the soft angelic beauty of a sleeping child?

What I am trying to say is the we each filter this photo through the paradigms of our individual experiences. Let there be room for all of us.

Most of what you say is true, as I told you
Was a workshop on the bed, threw roses on the body of the child
Thank you

keniko wrote in post #9929547
Moderators of this forum:

Please censor this post until the OP explains it. I am very sick that this image was show without more warning. Something like 'possible dead child photo, view at your own discretion'.

No props at all to the person who posted this without explaination. This image makes me ill, in the worst way.

Sorry
What I feel in you the feelings of sad
But this is the reality we have

Moppie wrote in post #9929279
I'm inclined to agree with you here. I've seen dead children, and I've seen middle eastern funerals, and this doens't look like a photo of either.
Doesn't mean its not though


However, on second glance, its possible that the title is a reference to the dreams of children, and this child could easily represent an angel sleeping as well.

It is interesting how we come to conclusions about things though, and it's still a really good photo.

Before starting to photograph any picture thinking to the goal of the image will come to you outstanding results

I feel like im the only one that sees nothing artistic about this photo, looks like the kid was just sleeping and some rose petals were thrown around him....imo composition is pretty bad and the tone doesnt do anything for the picture...the kid does not look dead...maybe because i work in a hospital but i can tell the difference between a dead body and a live person....idk

as to the photo... i don't like the post processing.

The title "Departure of Angels" certainly leads one to believe that the topic is "death", not "sleep", hence the misunderstandings. That settled, the attempt at showing a sleeping child was unsuccessful to me because of the full clothing, the roses and the pose, IMHO.