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●●♥♥♥The departure of Angels♥♥♥●●Contents May Be Disturbing to Some

 
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Apr 05, 2010 10:34 |  #31

sctbiggs wrote in post #9935542 (external link)
as to the photo... i don't like the post processing.

What would you auggest to improve it?


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Apr 05, 2010 10:45 |  #32

First off, Props to the Mods for not censoring.

Personally I like the photo and think it was pretty well done. It certainly drew some pretty strong reactions from some people.


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Apr 05, 2010 11:25 |  #33

k-style wrote in post #9935183 (external link)
I feel like im the only one that sees nothing artistic about this photo, looks like the kid was just sleeping and some rose petals were thrown around him....imo composition is pretty bad and the tone doesnt do anything for the picture...the kid does not look dead...maybe because i work in a hospital but i can tell the difference between a dead body and a live person....idk

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Apr 05, 2010 11:28 |  #34

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The title "Departure of Angels" certainly leads one to believe that the topic is "death", not "sleep", hence the misunderstandings. That settled, the attempt at showing a sleeping child was unsuccessful to me because of the full clothing, the roses and the pose, IMHO.

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Apr 05, 2010 11:35 |  #35

Real, or not, the image invokes a lot of emotion so I call this photo a success.



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Apr 05, 2010 14:07 |  #36

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Real, or not, the image invokes a lot of emotion so I call this photo a success.

I could take a snapshot of my grandmother naked and it would invoke a lot of "emotion", but I'd hardly call it a success. Just sayin'.... but I DO understand your point.
I checked out some of Mahmood's other work, and he is actually quite good and has some very nice stuff posted to other sections of this forum. Don't mean to talk about you like you aren't in the "room", Mahmood. Your other work is excellent and though this particular post has stirred up a bit o' controversy, sometimes that is a good thing. We need to talk about things like this so we can get a sense of what the general thinking on different areas is, among our peers. From there, we can decide where we each want to draw the line, personally.


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Apr 05, 2010 14:34 |  #37

well...to each their own I suppose...as for me it really does not do anything but leave a bad taste in my mouth...it doesnt matter if it caused a reaction or not like sue pointed out, lots of things we photograph could cause a reaction and that is not always a good thing...I also have to say that I looked on the Now I lay me down to Sleep website, and this picture in NO WAY compared to their work as a previous poster mentioned. It is just my opinion, like everyone is entitled to, and I just happened to not like the tone of the photo and I particularly hated the title. But if people like it, then so be it. One thing I have learned with photography is some people LOVE certain things while others hate them...it's part of the territory....


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Apr 05, 2010 14:51 as a reply to  @ LylasMama's post |  #38

The intention of this photograph was to make people think this was a dead baby. It was a sick thing to do, I see no other reason to throw roses over a sleeping child and then name this thread what the OP did without any further explaination. And then to wait so long to reply.

Props to the mod FOR censoring the image, because by censor I meant add a warning to the title so that people will be aware BEFORE they open it, what it could possibly be. It was a trick by the OP to be so vague.

If the OP is looking for CC and I look at this picture from a purely technical point-of-view, it's bad. It's bad lighting, processing is overdone, and the composition doesn't work. It looks like a snapshot that was dropped in mud. I personally would have liked to see more light, less orange/blacks, and a lower perspective, shot from above the way it is probably is alot of what give it a funeral photo appearance.

Also an appropriate title or description so that people understand you are trying to portray a sleeping angel, rather than a dead one. And what is "●●♥♥♥The departure of Angels♥♥♥●●" supposed to imply?




  
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Apr 05, 2010 19:26 |  #39

keniko wrote in post #9937916 (external link)
The intention of this photograph was to make people think this was a dead baby. It was a sick thing to do, I see no other reason to throw roses over a sleeping child and then name this thread what the OP did without any further explaination. And then to wait so long to reply.

Props to the mod FOR censoring the image, because by censor I meant add a warning to the title so that people will be aware BEFORE they open it, what it could possibly be. It was a trick by the OP to be so vague.

If the OP is looking for CC and I look at this picture from a purely technical point-of-view, it's bad. It's bad lighting, processing is overdone, and the composition doesn't work. It looks like a snapshot that was dropped in mud. I personally would have liked to see more light, less orange/blacks, and a lower perspective, shot from above the way it is probably is alot of what give it a funeral photo appearance.

Also an appropriate title or description so that people understand you are trying to portray a sleeping angel, rather than a dead one. And what is "●●♥♥♥The departure of Angels♥♥♥●●" supposed to imply?


It appears that English is not the OPs native language. Unless this guy seriously needs a hooked on phonics lesson, this fact would seem more than obvious.

With that fact in mind, his title as well as broken sentences and the length in time it took him to reply (perhaps he doesn't get on the internet every 5 minutes like some of us) does not seem as sinister as you seem to think it is.

BTW adding a warning isn't censoring something... so like I said, props to the Mods for NOT censoring.


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Apr 05, 2010 21:53 |  #40

Skip Souza wrote in post #9926986 (external link)
Very evocative photo.

Reminds me of the work of Now I Lay Me Down To Sleep (external link)

I went to a Paul Pierce seminar and at the end they gave the demonstration for Now I Lay Me Down To Sleep. There were approx 350 attendees at that seminar and there wasn't a dry eye left in the place.

It's sad part of life, but a true part of life. It takes a special person to be able to put into pictures such a sad moment. God bless those that are willing to do it.


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Apr 06, 2010 06:02 |  #41

I feel that these images have caused distress and grief to many subscribers
I wanted to be brought the idea of what is happening in my world may hear
But I apologize if I caused her a person of any




  
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Apr 06, 2010 06:44 |  #42

Skip Souza wrote in post #9936322 (external link)
What would you auggest to improve it?

Normal color... or black and white. I'm just not a fan of the color processing here.


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Apr 06, 2010 08:27 |  #43

mahmood abu hamda wrote in post #9942018 (external link)
I feel that these images have caused distress and grief to many subscribers
I wanted to be brought the idea of what is happening in my world may hear
But I apologize if I caused her a person of any


You need not worry about those who jump to conclusions and then blame you for it. What you posted is not distressful. My gosh, it is a sleeping child.


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Apr 06, 2010 14:58 |  #44

mahmood abu hamda wrote in post #9942018 (external link)
I feel that these images have caused distress and grief to many subscribers
I wanted to be brought the idea of what is happening in my world may hear
But I apologize if I caused her a person of any

How does an image of a sleeping baby idealize what is happening in your world?

Don't apologize for your image, grow from the critique. But please don't post a picture and make us think it could be a dead baby, without a little warning. This was especially hard for me to see as a new parent. I don't like to read about babies dying, much less see pictures of it, I choose to skip those things. In America, death has been desensitized, seeing an image of a dead adult rarely shocks but babies are more protected. It's still a complete shock to see that.

I have seen your other pictures before and they are great. Also, with your explaination that this is in fact a sleeping child, I think the warning might be unneeded now.




  
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Apr 06, 2010 15:26 |  #45

as many i thought the kid is dead from title and picture (mostly because of roses), then after shock, i took a better look i realized hes not. i got very sentimental person lately. i have two boys
i like your photography but i dont like tricks like that




  
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