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Apr 06, 2010 19:47 |  #1

I have been bothered by the look of how my wonderful UWA lenses warp reality. I currently have a 14LII and just got the new TS-E17 f/4 L. I've known since day one that when composing your shot, you have to keep it level in both the X and Y axis' and ideally also in the Z axis to keep all the lines as straight and level as possible. Even with doing all of that correctly, the images still come looking less then natural because the vanishing points are not right! Especially when shooting interior real estate and architectural type shots. So I starting playing with the images and realized that if I could fix the vanishing point, it would probably go a long way toward making the picture look closer to reality, but there in lies the problem! There's no vanishing point correction that can be applied to an entire image in one step, but I discovered that if you divide the picture in half and apply a perspective change to each half separately and then piece them back together, you can actually end up making the picture look a lot more natural...or at least more natural to me. An additional step of also stretching out each corrected half is necessary to keep the proportioning natural.

Below is an example of a shot taken with my 14LII on tripod, leveled in the X and Y plains.


IMAGE: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/thefontmeister/VV4G8801HDRsmall.jpg

You notice that all the vertical lines are nice and straight and that the lens is taking in a huge amount of area but because of the weird vanishing point, it doesn't look natural.

Below is the same shot , processed as I described above with my method of dividing, correcting and reassembling.


IMAGE: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/thefontmeister/VV4G8801alteredperspectivesmall.jpg

You'll notice that the image is now much wider but that's because the dimensions of the room are now more realistically conveyed.

I realize that it's a lot more post processing to do just to fix this issue but thought I'd share this idea for those that also bothered by this issue and were wanting a way of dealing with it.

Also, what I'd really like to see happen here for others to try this and post their results! Or if you have other methods of how you fix this type of issue, I'd love to hear about them!

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Apr 06, 2010 19:58 |  #2

That's pretty cool, "ghost"! I hope bunches of people hop in there!


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Apr 06, 2010 20:12 |  #3

Photoshop's Vanishing Point tool used in its Transform mode makes images like the original fairly simple to correct. There would hardly be any need to divide the photo then reassemble it.

So I starting playing with the images and realized that if I could fix the vanishing point, it would probably go a long way toward making the picture look closer to reality, but there in lies the problem! There's no vanishing point correction that can be applied to an entire image in one step, but I discovered that if you divide the picture in half and apply a perspective change to each half separately and then piece them back together, you can actually end up making the picture look a lot more natural...or at least more natural to me. An additional step of also stretching out each corrected half is necessary to keep the proportioning natural.


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Apr 06, 2010 20:40 |  #4

PixelMagic wrote in post #9946434 (external link)
Photoshop's Vanishing Point tool used in its Transform mode makes images like the original fairly simple to correct. There would hardly be any need to divide the photo then reassemble it.

I've seen this tool but have no idea how to use it?

Are there any decent video tutorials on getting the hang of this feature?

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Apr 06, 2010 23:14 |  #5

Wow, I like this edit a lot. The only distracting thing is the rug seems to curve kind of awkwardly. The whole room looks better though.




  
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Apr 06, 2010 23:48 |  #6

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Wow, I like this edit a lot. The only distracting thing is the rug seems to curve kind of awkwardly. The whole room looks better though.

Thanks! ;)

About the rug, yes, I can see what you mean but keep in mind this rug won't be in your pictures...only in mine! :lol:

The larger issue here is correcting the perceived vanishing point of the image and this process, if carefully done can work some magic!

Give it a shot!

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Apr 07, 2010 00:56 |  #7

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #9947671 (external link)
Thanks! ;)

About the rug, yes, I can see what you mean but keep in mind this rug won't be in your pictures...only in mine! :lol:

The larger issue here is correcting the perceived vanishing point of the image and this process, if carefully done can work some magic!

Give it a shot!

Cheers!

Well I wasn't implying that rug specifically was a problem really. If the rug hadn't been there you can still see some strange...bowing I guess? Some kind of distortion along the bottom of the cabinets. It's really only toward the bottom of the image, but I think it does merit mention if you're going for a natural look. Could just be a resizing thing too, but I don't think so. This doesn't appear to occur anywhere above the bottom of the TV line either.

I've never done this kind of edit at all so I'd totally believe this small artifact is unavoidable, and again, I agree the after shot looks better.




  
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Well I wasn't implying that rug specifically was a problem really. If the rug hadn't been there you can still see some strange...bowing I guess? Some kind of distortion along the bottom of the cabinets. It's really only toward the bottom of the image, but I think it does merit mention if you're going for a natural look. Could just be a resizing thing too, but I don't think so. This doesn't appear to occur anywhere above the bottom of the TV line either.

I've never done this kind of edit at all so I'd totally believe this small artifact is unavoidable, and again, I agree the after shot looks better.

I believe I was able to correct this distortion issue by selecting the rug from the original version of the picture and then making a layer of that alone and warping it into the correct perspective on the final image. The ceiling looked more natural I guess because of the lack of pattern or color change.

Here's a second attempt below with this added step...


IMAGE: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/thefontmeister/VV4G8801alteredperspectiveIIsmall.jpg


How's this one?

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Apr 07, 2010 11:39 as a reply to  @ The Ghost of FM's post |  #9

Very interesting! You may find some good related commentary in this blog:

http://kirkgittingspho​tography.blogspot.com/ (external link)

And this:

http://www.craiglamson​.com/421.htm (external link)


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