Any way to display 14 bit images in Photoshop Elements?

Got a problem here: I have both CS4 and Elements 8 installed on a dedicated pc for PP. Just bought the 1D mk4 and realised cr2-files won't show up in the Elements organizer (14 bit = unknown format there) and furthermore: I have got 140 tags in Elements that I would like to import into Bridge CS4 (because CS4 can open my 14 bit images from the 1D). Can it be done and how?

Sincere thanks for any wise reply!

You need to update the ACR plugin to version 5.6 to be able to view RAW files from the 1D Mark IV. My guess is that you have an earlier version.

http://www.adobe.com …/photoshop/came​raraw.html

I have the ACR 5.6, but the problem is that the thumbnails don't show up in Elements organizer. If I try to open it directly in the editor neither that does the trick. Elements doesn't handle cr2-files of 14-bits. Just wish I had the solution if there is any.

I may be mistaken, but you may need the most recent "Release Candidate" for ACR. You have to download it and manually intall it -- check the Adobe site linked above. Like I said, I may be mistaken, but if the 1D4 was released after ACR 5.6 then the Adobe software won't know what to do with it.

http://www.adobe.com …ads/detail.jsp?​ftpID=4624

According to link above it should work in the 5.6 update.

Referencing that link above make sure you follow the instructions TO THE LETTER (also be sure you are following the instructions for Elements, as that page lists CS4 instructions first.)

A very common problem for ACR updates in Elements is NOT following those instructions closely enough.
(NOTE... Even if you have ACR 5.6 installed for CS4, Elements keeps that same plugin in a different location... you bascially need to install it for each version of photoshop.)

I also have the same problem with my 7D when shooting raw and using Element 5....I know, I know....Element 5 is way outdated, but haven't got the money to upgrade yet. Any suggestions for quick fix for my situation?

Edit: Downloading said raw 5.6 here

http://www.adobe.com …ads/detail.jsp?​ftpID=4622

Elements 5 definitely will not support the newer cameras, and I'd be very careful about trying to run it with ACR 5.6 -- it will likely fail. Keep your old Camera Raw file handy.

For an older version of Elements, you have three approaches: First, upgrading Elements is not expensive. Second, and maybe the best approach if you use Windows, is to use Digital Photo Professional (DPP), the software that is provided on disks with the camera (if you don't have the disk, say so -- there are workarounds). DPP has a good Raw converter and if you need to you can convert the file and open the copy in Elements. The third approach is to use the free DNG converter provided by Adobe to convert the Raw files to DNG, a format that should enable Elements to work with your files.

tonylong wrote in post #9976740
Elements 5 definitely will not support the newer cameras, and I'd be very careful about trying to run it with ACR 5.6 -- it will likely fail. Keep your old Camera Raw file handy.

For an older version of Elements, you have three approaches: First, upgrading Elements is not expensive. Second, and maybe the best approach if you use Windows, is to use Digital Photo Professional (DPP), the software that is provided on disks with the camera (if you don't have the disk, say so -- there are workarounds). DPP has a good Raw converter and if you need to you can convert the file and open the copy in Elements. The third approach is to use the free DNG converter provided by Adobe to convert the Raw files to DNG, a format that should enable Elements to work with your files.

The last two free option reduces the file quality to the point that shooting raw would be pointless?

Clueless163 wrote in post #9976961
The last two free option reduces the file quality to the point that shooting raw would be pointless?

No, you can convert the file in DPP to a tiff (16 bit for the highest range of adjustments but a huge file or 8 bits for a smaller file). Tiffs are not compressed like jpegs are, but the 8 bit conversion does lose some latitude. DPP is a very capable Raw processor though -- in fact you could aim for what many of us do and use our Raw processor for everything needed on all our files until we need Photoshop for something special.

The other route, DNG, "wraps" the Raw data into a format developed by Adobe to "share". I'm not a DNG user and I don't have Elements so I can't say how well Elements 5 can work with the DNG of newer cameras, but in theory it should be able to handle them, maybe in a similar way that it worsk with tiffs.

In other words, you can do these things without the type of loss you see with jpegs.

A clarification: The problem is not ACR 5.6, that works well connection with both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements 8. I use both. Elements Organizer will not show thumbnails taken with the MkIV due to the fact that the camera uses 14 bit Raw images. I wondered if there was a way to upgrade Elements so that it handles MkÍV Raw-images as it does Raw-images from my 30D (less bits)?
My conclusion so far is to wait for the next upgrade.
Some of you may wonder why I don't switch to Bridge in Photoshop where the images display as they should? Thing is I have tagged thousands of pictures in Elements and haven't found a way to migrate those tags/albums into Photoshop. There is no way I am going to do that job over again. If any of you have some ideas of how to fix this - thank you very much for your advice!

Every Canon camera in the last three years has written 14 bit RAWs. Are you saying that Elements doesn't support the 40D, 50D, 7D, 5DII, 1DIII and Rebels from 450 to 550?

Haven't got those cameras, but it does support rawfiles taken with my 30D, but not with my mk4. That is a fact!

Canonman47 wrote in post #9987693
Haven't got those cameras, but it does support rawfiles taken with my 30D, but not with my mk4. That is a fact!

The fact has led you to an erroneous conclusion. There is some other reason for the files not opening, it is not because they are 14 bit. Post a CR2 on Yousendit, send yourself the link and post it here and let others try opening it.

Here's the link to a picture taken with my mk4: