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squaresnappr wrote in post #9999759
Then I was telling him that my computer is a workstation and not a desktop machine with a different CPU called the Xeon.

Of course during the C2D era of chips, the Xeon`s using the 775 platform were the exact same chips as the Pentium C2D. Same feature sets, same cache levels, same bus speeds.
I built a few systems here using the Xeon E3110 chips because the E8400`s weren`t in stock. Now this isn`t to say that all Xeons are just standard chips, but Intel had a time where it was binning the same CPU`s under different names and calling the one pile "workstation\server" and the other "desktop".

squaresnappr wrote in post #9999759
Come on now, they are not the same CPU from 2006, the new ones have a larger Front Side Bus. Hence, the reason the new ones have DDR3 ram. The other thing is when has Apple been about a race in performance. Its about build, stability and ease of use. I will say that the 2.4 GHZ core 2 duo in my 2006 macbook pro is slower than the 2.66 core 2 duo in my new macbook pro.

My neighbor came over because he needed help with his computer. He has a 2.4c ghz pentium 4 on windows XP and it runs pretty good on that os. His son actually played with the ram timings so all I had to do was reset the cmos and go back to the original timings. Then he said to me," Oh, my computer is just as fast as yours, mine is 2.4GHZ and yours is 2.66GHZ."
Then I was telling him that my computer is a workstation and not a desktop machine with a different CPU called the Xeon. But he gave me a wierd look so I just dropped the conversation and just fixed his machine.

I enjoy using apple product and their os. The build quality of their machines especially the mac pro and the unibody macbook pro are phenomonal.

When you have a very larger number of very large RAW files to process, in a very short amount of time, a very small increase in bus speed and CPU cache really doesn't mean squat.
The "current" core 2 duo chips are only minor improvements on the original designs which are over 4 years old.
Currently Apple is the only manufacturer to use them in high end computers, everyone else has gone to the superior i3, i5 or i7s for anything but the most budget and basic models.

If I was to buy a new computer right now, I know I would not want something that is out dated and in the process of being phased out.
If I did, then there would be no point in buying a new computer, I would just keep my Q6600.

J.David has asked for advice on an UPGRADE. Not a cross grade, or a down grade, but an upgrade to something more powerful and faster.
That means something with a Core 2 Quad, an i5 or i7.
Since Apple don't make anything with the Core 2 Quad (short of a used Mac Pro) that only leaves either a new Mac Pro, or a 27inch iMac with the i5 or i7.
Anything else is going to be at the most a very minor, and possibly not noticeable improvement, or even a chance of a down grade.
Just because its "new" doesn't mean its better.

Moppie wrote in post #10001385
When you have a very larger number of very large RAW files to process, in a very short amount of time, a very small increase in bus speed and CPU cache really doesn't mean squat.
The "current" core 2 duo chips are only minor improvements on the original designs which are over 4 years old.
Currently Apple is the only manufacturer to use them in high end computers, everyone else has gone to the superior i3, i5 or i7s for anything but the most budget and basic models.

If I was to buy a new computer right now, I know I would not want something that is out dated and in the process of being phased out.
If I did, then there would be no point in buying a new computer, I would just keep my Q6600.

J.David has asked for advice on an UPGRADE. Not a cross grade, or a down grade, but an upgrade to something more powerful and faster.
That means something with a Core 2 Quad, an i5 or i7.
Since Apple don't make anything with the Core 2 Quad (short of a used Mac Pro) that only leaves either a new Mac Pro, or a 27inch iMac with the i5 or i7.
Anything else is going to be at the most a very minor, and possibly not noticeable improvement, or even a chance of a down grade.
Just because its "new" doesn't mean its better.

With the way computer technology goes, everything gets outdated quickly even my Mac pro is outdated along with your Q6600. I just want to point out that they are not the same procs back in 2006. FSB and DDR3 ram will increase performance but I will agree that the increase in cache is not significant hence why I didn't even mention it. Whether you say it does squat on raw files or not, my new macbook pro is faster than the 3 year old santa rosa.

I pulled the trigger today and ordered MacBook Pro 15 inch with i7 processor, 500 g 7200 rpm disk, Hi resolution wide screen monitor and Aperture 3....thanks for helping me decide on this purchase

tonyniev wrote in post #10055486
I pulled the trigger today and ordered MacBook Pro 15 inch with i7 processor, 500 g 7200 rpm disk, Hi resolution wide screen monitor and Aperture 3....thanks for helping me decide on this purchase

I have a feeling you might really hate that computer so when that happens please PM and I will take it off your hands so it isn't cluttering up any desk space. Just kidding, that is an awesome choice!

tonyniev wrote in post #10055486
I pulled the trigger today and ordered MacBook Pro 15 inch with i7 processor, 500 g 7200 rpm disk, Hi resolution wide screen monitor and Aperture 3....thanks for helping me decide on this purchase

I was really hoping I could test out the new i7's with PS and/or LR in the Apple store with some sample photos....but turns out none of the floor models have that pre-loaded (unlike the Mac Pros and iMacs).

First time, I think, that Apple *wouldn't* do something for me when asked!

BeritOlam wrote in post #10057975
I was really hoping I could test out the new i7's with PS and/or LR in the Apple store with some sample photos....but turns out none of the floor models have that pre-loaded (unlike the Mac Pros and iMacs).

First time, I think, that Apple *wouldn't* do something for me when asked!

Im sure it will work great.


Apparently my computer is "too outdated" to be considered for purchase yet I can open up 1 -2gb worth of images at one time in PS or work on a single file that is easily 1gb in size with out hesitation.

JoeyBowman wrote in post #10058124
I'm sure it will work great.

I'm sure it will too....since I already have an i7 in my home box. I just wanted to be able to get some real-world testing to see it first-hand.

I've made some pretty 'strange' requests of Apple over the years, and they almost always comply. But not this time....

I use both platforms. Mac Pro with a quad (single chip) xeon processor. Do believe it's a 2.66 Ghz. But if I have many thousands of RAW files to process, I switch over to the PC which has the i980 Extreme chip - 4.4 Ghz, overclocked (solid and stable oc) 6 cores, 12 threads.

Which would I rather work with in regards to speed? Advantage goes to the PC since I can just drop in a new processor and have it crank out images like crazy. My slower chip was the i965 Extreme OC'd to 4 ghz. 4 cores/8 threads.

Does quite well on the Cinebench too. Dual Xeon W5590 processors (8 cores/ 16 threads) only beat out the single i7 overclocked 980x processor by a "whopping" 4 percent.

A single Xeon processor W5590 will cost nearly 1700 dollars. You would need two of them to beat out the i7 980 4.4ghz (OC) but that would set you back 3400 dollars.

Anything in the i7 class would fit the bill nicely if you're processing lots of RAW files. I wasn't expecting too much of a boost between the QX9650 (also an Extreme edition) Quad core, 4 Ghz, vs the i7. But it's quite noticeable.

Yes, I do go for the Extreme editions of the CPU for the larger cache and OC overhead. I probably only hold onto a CPU for about a year, maybe 1.5 years at most. Never get a chance to stress the 3 year warranty! Intel honors them even if they've been OC'd as long as the OC is not too severe and over volted.

yourdoinitwrong wrote in post #10056046
I have a feeling you might really hate that computer so when that happens please PM and I will take it off your hands so it isn't cluttering up any desk space. Just kidding, that is an awesome choice!

there is already a long line, my son, my teenage grandchildren
Thanks

i bought a mac early last year and thought i will love it, since i am in love with iphone

only to notice that i din't fully utilize it, and miss many stuff on how windows work

end up selling my C2D macbook. and now gona get a new windows7 notebook