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Apr 12, 2010 21:35 |  #1

If you had a $1000, what would be your strobe kit of choice? I'm a newbie and would like to venture into the world of strobes. I would like to purchase a kit that I can grow into.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

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Apr 12, 2010 22:18 |  #2

I was thinking about purchasing this from BH photo: Elinchrom D-Lite IT 400Ws 2-Light To Go Set http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …REG&si=rev#spec​ifications (external link)

Or this from Calumet: Genesis 400 2-light kit
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Apr 12, 2010 22:44 |  #3

Alien bees seem really popular around here, I might give them a try =)


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Apr 12, 2010 22:51 |  #4

If I had $1000, I'd skip Alienbees and go with Elinchrom.




  
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Apr 12, 2010 23:28 |  #5

toxic wrote in post #9983892 (external link)
If I had $1000, I'd skip Alienbees and go with Elinchrom.

What do you think of the Elinchrom kit I mentioned above? Is that a good kit for a total beginner or is it overkill?


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Apr 12, 2010 23:38 |  #6

jonahrei wrote in post #9984071 (external link)
What do you think of the Elinchrom kit I mentioned above? Is that a good kit for a total beginner or is it overkill?


It's a great kit.

I went with the elinchroms, and I totally love them. It seems a lot of AB users covet them too. :P

TBH, don't worry too much about being a beginner. The stuff that you're n00b-ish at will be the same whether you go with elinchrom, calumet, AlienBees or whatever.

Just get the strobes and go wild.




  
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Apr 13, 2010 00:29 as a reply to  @ nuffi's post |  #7

I'd definitely go with an Alien Bees setup. I'n my opinion, they're a lot easier to outfit with modifiers and a lot cheaper at that. You can do:

2 x AB800
1 x Vagabond Power Pack
1 x Large Octabox
1 x Large Softbox
Set of CyberSyncs to trigger wirelessly.

It'll run you just above $1k but you'll be portable and you wont be spending a ton in the long run on modifiers. Then if you want a bit higher quality, upgrade to the Einsteins once they become more readily available.


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Apr 13, 2010 00:38 |  #8

jonahrei wrote in post #9984071 (external link)
What do you think of the Elinchrom kit I mentioned above? Is that a good kit for a total beginner or is it overkill?

I've had the D-Lite 4 kit for over a year now...there's a LOT you can do with two lights and a reflector. I don't really feel like I've got much further than scratching the surface at this point, though admittedly I'm just a 'weekend warrior'.

I'd agree with an earlier post...just get ANY decent two-light kit and a reflector. It will be a while before you'll consistently need a third light.


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Apr 13, 2010 03:03 |  #9
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I'd say Elinchrom Only :D


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Apr 13, 2010 07:39 |  #10

For $1,000, I'd tell you to get AlienBees. As a beginner, you'll feel a lot more comfortable with that company. And the strobes ain't that bad either. They have great support and are very much willing to work with you. They also have a great resale value due to their popularity.

But when you start getting comfortable with lighting, look into the vast modifiers Elinchrom has. The fact wireless receivers are built-in seamlessly into the units for only a few bucks more (think D-Lite 4 vs. B800), you can't go wrong. Just read up on the D-Lite 4 it overheating issues 'fix' first so you can judge for yourself if that's something you're okay with. You can do all that or just get a Kacey adapter to use Elinchrom modifiers with the new Einstein lights.

But with a grand, you can really have a nice two-light set up easily.




  
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Apr 13, 2010 07:50 |  #11

How about a genesis 200 2 light kit plus a genesis 400 1 light kit all for $450? Or should I really try and stick w/ alien bees or elinchrom?


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Apr 13, 2010 08:31 |  #12

jonahrei wrote in post #9985456 (external link)
How about a genesis 200 2 light kit plus a genesis 400 1 light kit all for $450? Or should I really try and stick w/ alien bees or elinchrom?


you can get all that for $450? If so, I would consider that route.

I have the genesis 400s and was close to selling them for the D-Lites. Seems like the D-Lites are very similar and both have a tough time dealing with large modifiers. So for me, I think I am sticking with the genesis.

Genesis use Elinchrom mounts for modifiers. When you are ready to add more lights in the future or upgrade to something above the D-Lites for your main lights, you wont have to switch out all your modifiers.

The advantage to the D-Lites is the built in Skyports. When you factor the cost into the Genesis, the price isn't that much diferent (Genesis 400 2 light v. D-Lite IT 400). Bu for $450, to get a 3 light set-up, thats a pretty good deal.


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Apr 13, 2010 11:59 |  #13

CosmoKid wrote in post #9985613 (external link)
you can get all that for $450? If so, I would consider that route.

I have the genesis 400s and was close to selling them for the D-Lites. Seems like the D-Lites are very similar and both have a tough time dealing with large modifiers. So for me, I think I am sticking with the genesis.

Genesis use Elinchrom mounts for modifiers. When you are ready to add more lights in the future or upgrade to something above the D-Lites for your main lights, you wont have to switch out all your modifiers.

The advantage to the D-Lites is the built in Skyports. When you factor the cost into the Genesis, the price isn't that much diferent (Genesis 400 2 light v. D-Lite IT 400). Bu for $450, to get a 3 light set-up, thats a pretty good deal.


I'm still waiting to see if I can get all that for $450. Great to hear that I can use Elinchrom modifiers in the future, that would save me a little more dough! :)


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Apr 13, 2010 15:05 |  #14

Id go with an Elinchrom kit. Great light, room to grow with whatever modifiers you get, built in and included remote triggering, etc.


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Apr 13, 2010 21:41 |  #15

Holy crap, I just pulled the trigger on some ALIEN BEES!!!!! I know these were not in my OP, but I just won them on ebay.

Thanks for all your comments and input!

Here's what I got:

2 Alien Bees B1600
AlienBees Carrying Bag
3 CyberSync Trigger Receiver
2 13-foot Heavy Duty Stand
Stand Carrying Bag


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