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Apr 14, 2010 23:56 |  #1

My Tamron 60mm F2.0 Macro seems to be front focusing quite a bit. I always use center point, focus on eye, recompose, shoot. Seems like the eyes are never really in focus.

I have 2 tests:

Focused on the Flat Focus point in the middle. Obvious front focusing.

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Focused on the 0. Focused perfectly.

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It is not my T2i as my canon lens' focus great and I get exactly the same results using my 10D and the tamron 60mm.

Does this lens focus correctly or should I send it in for calibration? In use, the lens definitely has front focus when you use the eye. When you take a picture of anything else, it seems the focus is pretty much spot on.

P.S. These are crops, so the center of the photo may not be my focus point.

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Apr 15, 2010 00:59 |  #2

It is really hard to get a close portrait perfectly in focus at f2 on any lens. Just keep that in mind.


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Apr 15, 2010 08:26 |  #3

Ya, for sure, but with a focus test like this it should be accurate no?


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Apr 15, 2010 11:20 |  #4

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Ya, for sure, but with a focus test like this it should be accurate no?

not necessarily. The way your target is set up, the angle of the camera and your folds would have to be absolutely precise. Also the AF sensor is longer than the AF indicator box. Did you catch the box with the top or the bottom of the AF sensor line? No way to tell. I would try some easy targets in good light, at maybe a few feet and go from there. This test has way too many lines and symbols so there is no way to tell for sure which one the AF sensor is catching.


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Apr 15, 2010 11:50 |  #5

" I always use center point, focus on eye, recompose, shoot"
Im guessing thats your problem, you cant really do that at f2 and expect sharp focus.Slightest bit of movement and focus is out




  
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Apr 15, 2010 12:41 |  #6

Thanks for the replies.

P.S. I don't usually shoot at f2, mostly > f2.8 for portraits.


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Apr 19, 2010 12:37 as a reply to  @ Hardcore's post |  #7

I've enjoyed reading the threads over lens focus quality, BUT:

I have 10-20 high end Canon lenses for 5D & 5D MII that I have never tested for focus. I find that selected subject, lightening, composition, color, selected aperture/shutter-timing are the elements that I frequently screw up masking (if any) focus problem of the lens.

BTW, only the center AF point measures focus contrast in both vertical and horizontal axes. The other AF points (of the 9) focus either on vertical or horizontal contrast, but not both.

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Apr 19, 2010 12:57 |  #8

Here is a way to test for front focus...focus on the box front, and look at the ruler.

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Here is an example of perfect focus, using a 70-200 f/4 IS at its minimum focus distance. In this example, the '9' on the ruler is exactly aligned to the front of the target VCR tape box used for AF, and it is clearly in sharp focus, indicating good AF alignment.
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Apr 19, 2010 17:47 |  #9

I prefer to test using the live view / micro adjustment chart

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk …s3_af_micoadjus​tment.html (external link)

You set up that funky image on a monitor and your tripod at the right distance (50xFL) and hit autofocus (using quick mode) with live view on. Examine the image zoomed if nessesary. Then you can twist the MF ring backward very slightly to see if the image becomes more in focus that AF was able to get, if it does you may have front focusing. The interference pattern will be most pronounced when focus is dead on.


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