A new type of reflector from left field ...

tetrode wrote in post #10023144
Ah well, so much for an Elinchrom version:

http://www.paulcbuff-techforum.com/viewtopi​c.php?f=8&t=475#p2846

Dave F.

It's ok. I think we'll survive without it.

TMR Design wrote in post #10023165
It's ok. I think we'll survive without it.

I wanted the mount to play with, Rob, not the reflector itself. It's not clear if the PLM V2 Elinchrom mounting ring will be the same as/similar to the cage-style one for the Retro-Laser reflector.

Dave F.

tetrode wrote in post #10023294
I wanted the mount to play with, Rob, not the reflector itself. It's not clear if the PLM V2 Elinchrom mounting ring will be the same as/similar to the cage-style one for the Retro-Laser reflector.

Dave F.

I think that cage style mount will be used for more than one modifier, which is what has me excited. PCB said the PLMv2's shaft won't protrude and that this new mounting system will be used.

tetrode wrote in post #10008894
What do we think of this:

http://www.robgalbrait​h.com …age.asp?cid=7-10050-10630

Elinchrom mount to be available at launch.

Dave F.

Doesnt look like this will be coming out for Elinchrom use after all. This updated was added to the page you linked to:

Other than being an indirect source, i don't see how this could be any better or different than the 10" or the maxisoft personally. Maybe i'm missing something. Granted any PCB device will be quite cheaper.

mumbles wrote in post #10023526
Other than being an indirect source, i don't see how this could be any better or different than the 10" or the maxisoft personally. Maybe i'm missing something. Granted any PCB device will be quite cheaper.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, Brendan, but I think a 29-degree dispersion pattern is the tightest Elinchrom has to offer in a reflector. This PCB Retro-Laser reflector can allegedly produce an 11-degree beam. Not something I'd ever need but possibly very attractive to sports shooters.

Dave F.

seanzky wrote in post #10023308
I think that cage style mount will be used for more than one modifier, which is what has me excited. PCB said the PLMv2's shaft won't protrude and that this new mounting system will be used.

PCB is being very cagey (no pun intended) regarding the mounting arrangement of the PLM V2. The shaft will be collapsible and will be 7mm. In response to a query of mine on his techforum site, Paul said the shaft of the new PLM will be long enough to extend out the back of an Elinchrom light. In order for the new umbrellas to also be compatible with the new on-axis mount, I would imagine that the PLM's shaft would be fully (or perhaps partially) retracted and the stump inserted into the receiver of the new mounting adapter. Just conjecture as Paul isn't talking just yet.

Dave F.

tetrode wrote in post #10023144
Ah well, so much for an Elinchrom version:

http://www.paulcbuff-techforum.com/viewtopi​c.php?f=8&t=475#p2846

Dave F.

ben_r_ wrote in post #10023405
Doesnt look like this will be coming out for Elinchrom use after all. This updated was added to the page you linked to:

I think Dave said that already. Hehe.

http://elinchrom.com/p​roducts.php?p_id=92#co​ntent

Yeah, it appears 48' to be their tightest. Granted you could throw a grid on there, but why bother, PCB's is so much cheaper.

I can't image 10' coverage being useful in anything that is not static. How do sports people use these?

mumbles wrote in post #10024025
http://elinchrom.com/p​roducts.php?p_id=92#co​ntent

Yeah, it appears 48' to be their tightest. Granted you could throw a grid on there, but why bother, PCB's is so much cheaper.

I can't image 10' coverage being useful in anything that is not static. How do sports people use these?

I think they use them as spotlights to blind the opposing team and keep them from scoring.

PacAce wrote in post #10024081
I think they use them as spotlights to blind the opposing team and keep them from scoring.

Haha, that'd make more sense. I guess when i grid models with a 12' or 8', and they move even a few inches out of place, i lose it. Granted we are much closer. But i guess at 11' from rafters straight down, that may be more like a 20ft - 30ft spread.

I never really thought about it for those that do sports. I guess having something tight that can throw far would make sense.

mumbles wrote in post #10024125
Haha, that'd make more sense. I guess when i grid models with a 12' or 8', and they move even a few inches out of place, i lose it. Granted we are much closer. But i guess at 11' from rafters straight down, that may be more like a 20ft - 30ft spread.

I never really thought about it for those that do sports. I guess having something tight that can throw far would make sense.

To put things into better perspective, the EF400 f/2.8 lens has an angle of view of 6 degrees (full frame) and the EF300 f/2,8, 8 degrees, and they're both popular sports lenses. So a coverage of 11 degrees is relative wide by comparison.

But you do have a point about it's limited use for lighting moving action shots unless there's an operator moving the reflector around to track whichever subject the photographer wants to shoot. I guess one can always mount the camera and lens on a gimbal head and also attach the strobe and reflector on the gimbal justslike what I do with my flash and better beamer when shooting birds with a 500 f/4.