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Apr 19, 2010 08:31 |  #1

I love faking bokeh, what can I say? There's some kind of thrill to be had when you can achieve the look of a 24mm f/1.2 lens (which of course does not exist) by simple means of photoshopping. Actually, to do the job on this image, several steps were required. In photoshop CS4, masking out the foreground would have a standard, tedious process. A lot of time was saved thanks to the new edge detection algorithm. Cleaning the background was a faster process thanks to the new content aware tool. All in all, no more than 30 minutes was used to achieve the look of a wide angle/impossibly huge open aperture at this focus distance. It really brings the subject out from what would normally been a busy background.

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Apr 19, 2010 08:45 |  #2

That looks like faking depth of field, not bokah. Bokah is the precieved quality of the out of focus elements. Not that it is simply OOF.

And there are actions you can run to do this for you. You only need pick your amount of blur you want, and to mask out what you don't want OOF. Makes it a 5 minute job.

That said, I kinda like what you have done here. The sharp edge from the tree to the blurred background makes it kind of interesting.


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Apr 19, 2010 09:50 |  #3

Mark1 wrote in post #10022992 (external link)
That looks like faking depth of field, not bokah. Bokah is the precieved quality of the out of focus elements. Not that it is simply OOF.

And there are actions you can run to do this for you. You only need pick your amount of blur you want, and to mask out what you don't want OOF. Makes it a 5 minute job.

That said, I kinda like what you have done here. The sharp edge from the tree to the blurred background makes it kind of interesting.

I've played with Alien Skin's Bokeh plug-in and it seems pretty easy to make a decent looking shot.


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Apr 19, 2010 11:47 |  #4

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a miniature? I mean I like it. It looks really cool. Just mini.




  
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Apr 19, 2010 11:50 |  #5

R1200GS wrote in post #10024039 (external link)
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a miniature? I mean I like it. It looks really cool. Just mini.

I was thinking the same thing, it's gotta be the ground.


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Apr 19, 2010 12:48 |  #6

genzbenz wrote in post #10023335 (external link)
I've played with Alien Skin's Bokeh plug-in and it seems pretty easy to make a decent looking shot.

i used a very slight amount of bokeh (i think i selected something like 6%) using the alien skin plugin on this shot, and it turned out pretty well in my opinion. the whole thing was pretty in focus to start with. (i'd show you the original but i'm at work):

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Apr 19, 2010 14:12 |  #7

R1200GS wrote in post #10024039 (external link)
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a miniature? I mean I like it. It looks really cool. Just mini.

I read a tutorial once that talked about making real landscape shots look miniature. It involved defocusing the fore and back grounds. It got this same look .


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Apr 19, 2010 14:15 |  #8

Its not the same. itll always look fake. that seems to be the flavor of the week right now, faking tilt shift shots to look like miniatures. Its really amazing how it takes the most boring looking shots and suddenly makes them so interesting ;-)a Look past the gimmick and what your left with is well, a boring shot. Fnny that there are some big name photogs doing it now though


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Apr 19, 2010 14:19 |  #9

I only fake it if I have to. I much prefer the real thing. Looks good though, OP.


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Apr 19, 2010 14:27 |  #10

R1200GS wrote in post #10024039 (external link)
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a miniature? I mean I like it. It looks really cool. Just mini.

I agree, it does have a kinda tilt-shift quality to it. It's a nice shot though.


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Apr 19, 2010 16:02 |  #11

To me that photo looks like a good photo that was ruined by adding fake DOF. I'm sorry but I just don't like it at all.

OP: Would you like to share the original photo? That is, with the same PP minus fake DOF.




  
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Apr 19, 2010 16:50 |  #12

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To me that photo looks like a good photo that was ruined by adding fake DOF. I'm sorry but I just don't like it at all.

OP: Would you like to share the original photo? That is, with the same PP minus fake DOF.

no prob. I'm going to have to say that I think you presumed too quickly. The original is incredibly bland. The ice on the lake is not very attractive, for example...

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Apr 19, 2010 16:59 |  #13

I like them both, the original kind of makes you stop and actually take it all in though. Maybe if the blurred one had a bit more transition to it between the blur and in focus parts. The colors rock.



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Apr 19, 2010 17:07 |  #14

Mark1 wrote in post #10022992 (external link)
That looks like faking depth of field, not bokah. Bokah is the precieved quality of the out of focus elements. Not that it is simply OOF.

And there are actions you can run to do this for you. You only need pick your amount of blur you want, and to mask out what you don't want OOF. Makes it a 5 minute job.

That said, I kinda like what you have done here. The sharp edge from the tree to the blurred background makes it kind of interesting.

lol, ok, I know. wrong term. I was in a rush to get to a meeting, wasn't thinking clearly at the time. Actually, PS crashed halfway through the job, so it could have been a lot faster. Watching 'Numbers' in the background didn't speed things up either.

bulldogg7 wrote in post #10025968 (external link)
I like them both, the original kind of makes you stop and actually take it all in though. Maybe if the blurred one had a bit more transition to it between the blur and in focus parts.


that's true. The processed image is overly blurred thus less interesting. The experiment was more about the process rather than an intended result for this picture. I won't be printing either simply because I have other better close-up portraits.

R1200GS wrote in post #10024039 (external link)
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a miniature? I mean I like it. It looks really cool. Just mini.

I think the reason is that the larger a lens's aperture is, the greater it is exaggerating what the human eye can see. As I said earlier, this effect would most likely be possible if a 24mm f/1.2 lens existed. I'd imagine the actual diameter of the lens would be very large to achieve this. Hence why it would give the impression that you were looking through the eye of a gaint... and why everything else would seem miniature.


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Apr 19, 2010 17:07 |  #15

Pearlallica wrote in post #10025935 (external link)
no prob. I'm going to have to say that I think you presumed too quickly. The original is incredibly bland. The ice on the lake is not very attractive, for example...

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But that is the original straight from the camera, right? Do you have the same photo *with* PP but without fake DOF?

I'm not saying fake DOF is a bad idea but I do think it should be more subtle than what you added. It just screams gaussian blur + layer mask. Maybe I've spent too much time in PS :)




  
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